X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao107.cox.net ([68.230.241.39] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.11) with ESMTP id 3439725 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:25:04 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.39; envelope-from=alventures@cox.net Received: from fed1rmimpo01.cox.net ([70.169.32.71]) by fed1rmmtao107.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090123052422.FJAF131.fed1rmmtao107.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:24:22 -0500 Received: from BigAl ([72.192.137.74]) by fed1rmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id 6tQM1b0081cVYgg03tQMGg; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:24:21 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=O5OqsukRt6gA:10 a=dqEN4b84kyIA:10 a=arxwEM4EAAAA:8 a=QdXCYpuVAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=MP_20UxOAAAA:8 a=_oJR0VilAAAA:8 a=nUuTZ29dAAAA:8 a=rglfgyMGY8Jq7qw21gMA:9 a=y77XAlanTi74g4CnR5cA:7 a=SG5q-X-l-RWjPGuJtpcqDmSOSWkA:4 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=oqs56FR1YJwA:10 a=KkJ2cjcwnvN4ux4tVeEA:7 a=mbgI-l2rVEogQmpvABW7iHE7mTkA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 From: "Al Gietzen" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Mark's BBQ Run / 20B numbers Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:26:22 -0800 Message-ID: <0FE9D0F2077E47EC9198F0B96ABEF938@BigAl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C97CD8.128FBD80" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C97CD8.128FBD80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry, Ed. I was recalling that on the dyno my 20B consistently put out 260-270 hp at 6000 and WOT; but that was corrected to standard day at = sea level, and the fuel flow meter wasn't working. Based on the fuel burn = of 15 gph, your numbers seem correct. =20 What altitude were you flying, Mark? =20 So when I'm cruising at 200 mph, and 10 gph; I'm doin' it at 110-120 hp. Hum-m-m. =20 Al =20 -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed Anderson Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:34 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mark's BBQ Run / 20B numbers =20 Doug, at 15 gph at 6000 rpm, Mark would be making approx 165 HP, perhaps = a bit more, using a very conservative BSFC of 0.55. If you assume a bit better BSFC of 0.49 it would be around 183 HP. =20 =20 Ed =20 Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://www.andersonee.com http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html http://www.flyrotary.com/ http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW =20 _____ =20 From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of DLOMHEIM@aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:38 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Mark's BBQ Run / 20B numbers =20 Mark: =20 Great story...thanks for posting it! At 6,000 rpm and 15 gph, how many = HP do you think you're developing? =20 Also, have you by chance flown side by side with another Lycoming = powered ES for comparison purposes? If so what did you learn? =20 We're going to have a couple of "burger burns" at our airport ((2OK2) = just east of Tinker AFB) this Spring / Summer, so maybe you'll feel like = going on a short cross country up this way and show our little EAA chapter what a three rotor looks and sounds like?! =20 =20 Blue Skies =20 Doug RV-9A, 13B Organizing the hanger for Spring FWF and canopy work! =20 _____ =20 A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus = signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C97CD8.128FBD80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Sorry, Ed.  I was recalling = that on the dyno my 20B consistently put out 260-270 hp at 6000 and WOT; but = that was corrected to standard day at sea level, and the fuel flow meter = wasn’t working.  Based on the fuel burn of 15 gph, your numbers seem = correct.

 

What altitude were you flying, = Mark?

 

So when I’m cruising at 200 = mph, and 10 gph; I’m doin’ it at 110-120 hp. = Hum-m-m.

 

Al

 

-----Original = Message-----
From: Rotary motors in = aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed Anderson
Sent: Thursday, January = 22, 2009 8:34 PM
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Mark's BBQ Run / 20B numbers

 

Doug, at 15 gph = at 6000 rpm, Mark would be making approx 165 HP, perhaps a bit more, using a = very conservative  BSFC of 0.55.  If you assume a bit better BSFC = of 0.49 it would be around 183 HP.

 

 

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Ed = Anderson

Rv-6A N494BW = Rotary Powered

Matthews, = NC

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From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of DLOMHEIM@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, January = 22, 2009 9:38 PM
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] = Mark's BBQ Run / 20B numbers

 

Mark:

 

Great story...thanks for posting it!  At 6,000 rpm and 15 gph, how = many HP do you think you're developing?

 

Also, have you by chance flown side by side with another Lycoming powered ES = for comparison purposes?  If so what did you learn?

 

We're going to have a couple of "burger burns" at our airport = ((2OK2) just east of Tinker AFB) this Spring / Summer, so maybe you'll feel like = going on a short cross country up this way and show our little EAA = chapter what a three rotor looks and sounds like?! 

 

Blue Skies

 

Doug

RV-9A, 13B

Organizing the hanger for Spring FWF and canopy work!

 

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!



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