Return-Path: Received: from smtp800.mail.sc5.yahoo.com ([66.163.168.179] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with SMTP id 2761268 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:44:12 -0500 Received: from adsl-64-219-118-155.dsl.bumttx.swbell.net (HELO Davidscmptr) (dcarter11@sbcglobal.net@64.219.118.155 with login) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Nov 2003 05:44:11 -0000 Message-ID: <08c501c3b0bb$a1d6fce0$6501a8c0@Davidscmptr> Reply-To: "David Carter" From: "David Carter" To: "flyrotary" Subject: Re: Radiators Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:44:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Exactly, Al. That was my only point. (I'm reading these e-mails in reverse chrono order tonight after having been gone all day . . . .) Hey, Al, looks like your comments when replyng to these e-mails is single spaced OK - but the part you quote to comment on comes out double spaced. Wonder why that is? I edited to single space below. Anyone else see that, or is it my system? David > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Al Gietzen" > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 1:34 PM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: radiator > > > > > > > Just a comment on one of the "assumptions" we all start with when > discussing estimation of cooling system sizes for hot weather: How much hp > is being developed, i.e., how much heat is to be rejected? > > - I wonder if everyone is "assuming" that they must calculate radiator > areas based on heat being generated/to be rejected while generating 100% > power, i.e., 160 or up to 180-205 for a n/a rotary, depending on what you > think you will be getting? > > -- My point is this: At a 90 or 100 degree F day, at full > throttle, sea level, std day pressure (29.92), you won't be generating > > 100% power - because, you are sucking in hot ambient air through the > inductionsystem (lower density than standard) and, without looking up the > equations for normalizing measured performance to "std day", I guess we'll > be generating only 90% of the 160 or so hp. > > Al replied: > > That's true. That is one of the considerations built into my assumption > > of designing to 80% of full power on a hot day. The other thing is, it > > would probably very fortuitous if your actual performance fell within > > +-10%, or even +-20% of your design point anyway. > > > Al