Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #4464
From: Al Gietzen <ALVentures@cox.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Radiator size
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:44:20 -0800
To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

 

The only problem is, I don't know anybody in the amateur-builder

community who is doing this, and I don't know whether the cores that you

folks are using come with the necessary information already provided by

the manufacturer. It is, after all, much easier to pick two points off a

plot than to derive them from tests

 

If anybody out there has manufacturer's pressure drop and/or heat

transfer data for a core or finished radiator that he could scan and

send me, I would be most grateful. It doesn't matter what core - I just

need to test my work so far against real hardware currently on the

market.

 

Regards to all,

Marc de Piolenc

Mass Flow

http://www89.pair.com/techinfo/MassFlow/ductbook.htm

 

Marc;

 

I have two custom radiators and a custom oil cooler.  I have some data that may be useful; from the maker and some I measured.  Infortunately right now I can’t locate the air side data I took on the two radiators – two spreadsheet files that seem to have disappeared; and I can find no manufacturers data on one of the rads.

 

Radiator: Ron Davis Racing  double pass, 2 rows of 1” tubes, 16 fins/in, core size 11.5 x 16 x 2.5

Conditions: coolant flow – 20 gpm   inlet temp – 200F

                    Air flow 2600 cfm    inlet temp – 90F

Manufacturers data : Coolant pressure drop – 2.25 psi

                                  Airside pressure drop – 0.175 psi

                                  Heat dissipation – 2898 Btu/min

As I recall, my airflow test data showed air side PD slightly lower.

 

Oil Cooler:  Griffin Thermal Products  Single pass, 1 row 3.35” wide extruded tubes with internal fins, 14 fins/in, core size 5.4 x 21.5 x 3.35

My measured air side data:

         

fpm

FPS

IN. H2O

CFM

598.4

9.97

0.26

400.93

915.2

15.25

0.50

613.18

1196.8

19.95

0.76

801.86

1328.8

22.15

0.88

890.30

1522.4

25.37

1.12

1020.01

1700

28.00

1.32

1125.60

1900

31.00

1.56

1246.20

2100

34.00

1.84

1366.80

2300

37.00

2.12

1487.40

2500

40.00

2.44

1608.00

 

The first five points are measured, the last five extrapolated using a regression analysis fit which matched the measured data very well.

 

The manufacturers data that I have is for the same tube/fin configuration, for what they called a “similar” design, actual measured data. I don’t know how useful it is because I don’t know their actual core dimensions.

 

Oil inlet – 220F, Oil flow – 18gpm, Delta P – 28 psi, oil outlet – 185F

Air inlet – 100F, Air flow – 1575 cfm, Delta P – 1.48”

Heat rejection – 2380 Btu/min

 

The flow rates, temps, and heat dissipation is very close to my design point.

 

I also did pressure tests on the cooler; cycled 5 times to 125 psi – no problems.  The extruded tube is very interesting; thin ribs about every 5/16” that connect the tube wall, with 3 small intermediate fins.

 

FWIW,

 

Al

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