X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from eastrmmtao102.cox.net ([68.230.240.8] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.10) with ESMTP id 3331300 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:12:11 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.240.8; envelope-from=taspilot@cox.net Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao102.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20081204221134.TJFM19141.eastrmmtao102.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net>; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 17:11:34 -0500 Received: from eastrmwml43 ([172.18.18.217]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id nABa1a00B4h0NJL02ABaqJ; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:11:34 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=nnwZnFVJDakA:10 a=9SITGTiU-EIA:10 a=xY3j4B6z203P4gJ+umuYrw==:17 a=arxwEM4EAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=QdXCYpuVAAAA:8 a=Drcq2zve53YVCFfRWFsA:9 a=srGCe_9CPBVWzxBHXyUA:7 a=jflSJEHTgbVkhTEVLlCi8LoHbEEA:4 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=eJojReuL3h0A:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=vNGxQsTWjH8A:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Received: from 72.213.42.202 by webmail.central.cox.net; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 17:11:34 -0500 Message-ID: <20081204171134.QPMJ8.408958.imail@eastrmwml43> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 17:11:34 -0500 From: To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Front Nut, Thermostat and Coolant Intake hose was : [FlyRotary] Re: Hot first flight Cc: Mark Steitle In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Mark Please remove me from your mailing lists. taspilot@cox.net ---- Mark Steitle wrote:=20 Jeff, I have done as Bill describes, using an impact wrench. If you use the hand-hold method, use a glove. My only comment is that some alternators have right-hand thread, others have left-hand, depending on the direction they are designed to turn. So, look closely at the end of the shaft to mak= e sure you're turning it the correct direction. Mark S. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Bill Bradburry w= rote: > Jeff, my alternator guy just holds the pulley with his left hand and > hits the nut with an impact wrench and it spins right off. It is right h= and > threads though=E2=80=A6.lefty tighty, righty loosey! > > If you discover that my alternator guy has a really strong left hand, you > can use Lynn's suggestion of a strap wrench.. :>) > > > > Bill B > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *O= n > Behalf Of *Jeff Whaley > *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2008 12:14 PM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Front Nut, Thermostat and Coolant Intake hose > was : [FlyRotary] Re: Hot first flight > > Hi Ed, I don't want to change the main e-shaft pulley =E2=80=A6 I was thi= nking of > changing the ALTERNATOR double-groove pulley =E2=80=A6 the belt got jamme= d in the > alternator pulley; the alternator and top cowling were powdered with rubb= er > residue. > > Jeff > > > > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *O= n > Behalf Of *Ed Anderson > *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2008 11:58 AM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Front Nut, Thermostat and Coolant Intake hose was = : > [FlyRotary] Re: Hot first flight > > > > *FONT NUT CAUTION* > > > > Jeff, as Tracy mentioned =E2=80=93 delay changing the main pulley until a= bit later > (unless its clear there is a defect in it) because if you DO let the thru= st > bearing slip off its shoulder on the E shaft =E2=80=93 it's a minimum of = taking the > front cover off the engine (next to firewall) to get to it. In most case= s, > due to limited space under the cowl and motor mounts, you end up taking t= he > engine off the aircraft. That's not fun any time and I imagine even less= so > with temps in the 30F range. > > > > BUT, if you decide you HAVE to replace the main pulley without removing t= he > engine, here is a suggestion. > > > > Raise the tail of your aircraft as high in the air as you safely can. Th= is > will tend to keep the thrust bearing toward the rear of the engine (front= of > aircraft) where it rests against a spacer. That way the shock of an impa= ct > wrench will not have as much tendency to "walk" the bearing forward and o= ff > its shoulder. No guarantee it won't get out of position =E2=80=93 just a= bit less > likely - than if the nose is up. > > > > There are some instructions in the Mazda manual or somewhere that tells y= ou > how to determine if the thrust bearing has falling out of position by tak= ing > some measurements based on how far you can get the pulley nut back on the > shaft =E2=80=93 but, I can't recall at the moment where they and you r= eally don't > want to go there at this time in any case. > > > > THERMOSTAT > > > > I believe I read about the loss of efficiency by leaving out the plug in > one of Racing Beat's old technical catalogs and I am fairly certain they > mentioned 20%. Well, I looked in one of their old catalogs and while I d= id > not find a specific percentage mentioned (at least in my quick search), t= his > is a quote from them: > > Quote : > > " > > 7. Mazda's water thermostat is a "by-pass" type (*apparently > referring to the =C2=BD" by-pass hole*). Therefore, if it is removed fo= r > racing, the hole below it *MUST* be *plugged*=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6 > > =E2=80=A6 NOTE: The thermostat should be removed and the *bypass plugged= * for > racing. Do not use restrictors in the system. Free Flow is best. > > > > " > > RADIATOR INTAKE HOSE > > > > Another thing Racing Beat cautions about - is making certain that the > radiator hose on the suction side is the type that has a spring coiled in > side or is otherwise stiff enough to resist collapsing under the suction = of > the water pump. If that happens, of courses, your coolant flowed is > seriously impeded. > > > > The hose may be able to resist the suction at idle or low rpm, but may no= t > at the higher rpm. If you squeeze the hose and can deform it with your > hand pressure , then it is likely too flimsy to serve as the radiator hos= e > on the intake side of the pump. > > > > You are 99% there, Jeff. So no rash action, just take it one step at a > time {:>) =E2=80=93 easy for me to say. > > Ed Anderson > > Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered > > Matthews, NC > > eanderson@carolina.rr.com > > http://www.andersonee.com > > http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW > > http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html >