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From: randy echtinaw <rjechtinaw@toast.net>
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Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel system
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:30:20 -0500
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I would appreciate the info David. For everyone thank you very much  
for the information and thoughts. This will make it much less  
stressful to build my own system. If anyone else has additional  
thoughts please send them along.

Tracy, as a side note, if you ever wonder if the time and $$ is worth  
the annual trip to Oshkosh every year just to stand outside in the  
heat and rain - - it is. Because guys like me get to talk to guys like  
you. Thank you. You will also be surprised to know that MONEY is  
always an issue as you will realize when I have to set up a monthly  
pmt. schedule with you for the redrive / fuel pumps /  EC2/EM2 :))
Thanks again,
Randy
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On Dec 3, 2008, at 9:29 AM, hoursaway1@comcast.net wrote:

> I know of a Co. in FL. that makes an all chemical tolerant duplex  
> valve (brass w/nylon cups) for aprox. $180 shipped to your home, he  
> has been using the DV for aprox. 7 years now, mine has been wet with  
> auto fuel/alc./2 cyc. mix, in an RV6A Rotary for aprox. 2 years now  
> being changed from tank-to-tank monthly. I will find his info. &  
> post tomorrow?   David R. Cook  RV6A Rotary   freeeeezing in MI.
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
>
> > There's that, and the fact that in today's unbelievably tight credit
> > market, you might not be able to get a loan for one. ;-)
> >
> > Charlie
> >
> > Bill Schertz wrote:
> > > Consider using an ANDAIR duplex valve. It takes fuel from one  
> tank and
> > > returns it to the same tank. Turn it and it takes and returns to  
> the
> > > other tank. Simple in operation, but requires more plumbing.
> > > Bill Schertz
> > > KIS Cruiser #4045
> > > N343BS
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "randy echtinaw"
> > >
> > > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft"
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:50 PM
> > > Subject: [FlyRotary] R e: Fuel system
> > >
> > >
> > >> Al,
> > >> That was my first thought to just drain the smaller tank into the
> > >> larger with a simple 1/4 turn on/off but I would have to run the
> > >> main at least 1/2 empty for this to work. I cannot fly ackro with
> > >> less than 6 gallons in the main tank. I cannot fly ackro at all  
> with
> > >> fuel in the smaller tank so by the time the smaller tank  
> emptied I
> > >> would have little fuel remaining in the larger tank. I even
> > >> considered a small transfer pump to fill the larger tank but I am
> > >> again creating complexity.
> > >> All input here is welcome :))
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> ---------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> On Dec 2, 2008, at 7:39 PM, Al Gietzen wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Randy;
> > >>>
> > >>> Is the positioning of the tanks such that you could gravity  
> feed the
> > >>> small
> > >>> tank into the big tank? Then you could return to the larger  
> tank - and
> > >>> eliminate the selector valve.
> > >>>
> > >>> Al G
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: Rotary motors in aircraft
> > >>> [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
> > >>> Behalf Of randy echtinaw
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:59 PM
> > >>> To: Rotary motors in aircraft
> > >>> Subject: [FlyRotary] Fuel system
> > >>>
> > >>> Gentlemen,
> > >>> Because a large majority of homebuilt problems are fuel  
> related I
> > >>> am trying to make my system as simple as possible. This is a  
> biplane
> > >>> with a 20 gal. and a 10 gal. tank in front of t he inst.  
> panel, RX-8
> > >>> engine.
> > >>> The only "known" problem I have at the moment is my fuel  
> return. I
> > >>> would like it to return to the main tank only. This would mean  
> burning
> > >>> off 2-3 gallons from the main tank before switching to the 2nd  
> tank.
> > >>> But, this might mean I am setting myself up for a future  
> "pilot error"
> > >>> in fuel management. If I return to both tanks I would need  
> another
> > >>> selector and cockpit control which is making the system more
> > >>> complicated and, again, potential "pilot error." So,  
> suggestions . . .
> > >>> Thank you very much,
> > >>> Randy
> >
> >
> >
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