X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.187] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.10) with ESMTP id 3328381 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:33:51 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.233.182.187; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so1802258nfb.27 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:33:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=7Hmbb+u4XtKRb2eZJl1bgOGUmu2eTSLC8yAiExXceB8=; b=nO/rr0Zg70JiqIsSN+n5WZbCJC4/B5riiIZ9tDRGXlXp/gT+QQ/6LY+mImYlkBbvzg 4EAvBxQnyO4LgzldrFyBR3KwYx8cw9Do32j3QE46wFR/GdRD1FT+ZEVGBRVVKxxUc2U7 IZzLXOZQBV+UUpOSc2rs348ZxJoax7emdG3v0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=L25yeCUfYTbQxbR09vRHoPLwQU2sb5r9PmoWHWPeAn4YoLoS2xuphIPDHiTY8oCiK5 HejvcmvXJdSSMBKmDCK98oSb1XbxYPTYXtgTu1znIHPBW1suwy+aOKZ4olTRCBbhJZsY tN7glqu1gCsdFBrQTvW8HuYxIN0FKs1rw8/k4= Received: by 10.210.22.8 with SMTP id 8mr15396972ebv.46.1228311193031; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:33:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.24.6 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 05:33:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5cf132c0812030533y472df645la57938c90ee34e71@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:33:13 -0600 From: "Mark Steitle" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Fuel system In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5062_29857888.1228311193036" References: ------=_Part_5062_29857888.1228311193036 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Randy, The simpler the better. Tracy's system is about as simple as you can get and has proven itself over many hours of flying. He has one EFI pump drawing and returning to main wing tank. Then he has a facet pump to transfer fuel from the second wing tank to the main wing tank. He runs the facet pump as needed to replace the fuel used from the main tank. No valves, minimal plumbing. If I were to do it over, I would copy Tracy's design. Mark S. On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 5:58 PM, randy echtinaw wrote: > Gentlemen, > Because a large majority of homebuilt problems are fuel related I am > trying to make my system as simple as possible. This is a biplane with a 20 > gal. and a 10 gal. tank in front of the inst. panel, RX-8 engine. > The only "known" problem I have at the moment is my fuel return. I would > like it to return to the main tank only. This would mean burning off 2-3 > gallons from the main tank before switching to the 2nd tank. But, this might > mean I am setting myself up for a future "pilot error" in fuel management. > If I return to both tanks I would need another selector and cockpit control > which is making the system more complicated and, again, potential "pilot > error." So, suggestions . . . > Thank you very much, > Randy > > > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > ------=_Part_5062_29857888.1228311193036 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Randy,
 
The simpler the better.  Tracy's system is about as simple as you can get and has proven itself over many hours of flying.  He has one EFI pump drawing and returning to main wing tank.  Then he has a facet pump to transfer fuel from the second wing tank to the main wing tank.  He runs the facet pump as needed to replace the fuel used from the main tank.  No valves, minimal plumbing.  If I were to do it over, I would copy Tracy's design.
 
Mark S. 

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 5:58 PM, randy echtinaw <rjechtinaw@toast.net> wrote:
Gentlemen,
 Because a large majority of homebuilt problems are fuel related I am trying to make my system as simple as possible. This is a biplane with a 20 gal. and a 10 gal. tank in front of the inst. panel, RX-8 engine.
The only "known" problem I have at the moment is my fuel return. I would like it to return to the main tank only. This would mean burning off 2-3 gallons from the main tank before switching to the 2nd tank. But, this might mean I am setting myself up for a future "pilot error" in fuel management. If I return to both tanks I would need another selector and cockpit control which is making the system more complicated and, again, potential "pilot error." So, suggestions . . .
Thank you very much,
Randy




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