Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #44296
From: Richard Sohn <res12@fairpoint.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Mike Wills...when's your first flight?
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:09:50 -0600
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Hi Mike,
 
just a comment for support.
 
I spent most of my flying life in gliders, motor gliders, hang gliders and some gyros. Got my PPL when I was past 60 in a 152. A friend gave me about 20 TOL in an RV6 (O360 CS) for tail dragger prep for the first flight with my AVID.
Two things I remember catching my attention were, P-Factor on take off and on landing fly the AC until you are at taxi speed. The positive was that there was a lot of similarity in stick sensitivity with gliders. The only dog I remember in my flying experience was the 152, everything else was very similar to each other. 
If and when you go for the FIRST, you will be surprised how much you know about flying.
 
Good luck!
 
Richard Sohn
N2071U
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Wills
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 4:32 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mike Wills...when's your first flight?

Dave,
 
 You may be right - I may be stalling. Also the new glider I just bought is taking up a considerable amount of my spare time. I may be a little over committed. :-)
 
 My first hour of dual in the Citabria was a little sketchy but by hour 2 I was feeling pretty good. Other than the recent Citabria time I havent flown a TD in about 5 years.
 
 I've got about 150 hours in the -6A so I know what it's going to do in the air. It's when the wheels are on the ground....
 
 I'm pretty sure i could just jump right in and go. But then I think about the 13 years of my life invested in it. I'm going to feel pretty stupid if I do something dumb that could have been rectified with a little dual. Anyway, I'm going to hook back up with my buddy for another hour or two in the Citabria here pretty soon. I'll let you know if I want to take you up on your offer Dave.
 
Mike Wills
RV-4 N144MW
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 9:49 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mike Wills...when's your first flight?

Mike,

You  know how I feel about it, same as Tracy and Ed.  My first take off and landing in an RV-6 was my test flight - and I had not flown a TD in over 2 years.  Basic flying skills are not particularly fleeting.   You have plenty of TW&RV experience, I think you are just stalling. :-)

So just go fly it before the marine layer comes back!!  Will be glad to help any way I can including my previous offer of some time in my right seat.

But if you don't do it soon I am going to sneak over there one of these days and "steal" your first flight just to get it out of the way ;-)

--
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net

On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 7:14 AM, Tracy Crook <tracy@rotaryaviation.com> wrote:
Ed's words on his first flight were virtually a carbon copy of my own.  And this was after flying nothing but ultralights for the 10 years prior to flying the RV.

I thought about getting an experienced RV pilot to do the first flight but could not bring myself to ask anyone else to take the responsibility for such a truly experimental machine.  Besides,  no one knows your unique systems and how to handle them better than you.

All the best on your first flight whenever you decide you're ready.  You are the PIC.

Tracy Crook

On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 1:17 AM, Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:

Hi Mike,

 

If you can get a ride in an RV that would be great.  However, I ran into the same problem – no Rv's available in my area back in 1998.  So my first flight in an RV was my test flight – I don't necessarily recommend that, however, I found the Rv so easy to fly that in my focus on my very high oil temperature and decision to abort after one circuit of the patter (actually ½ circuit), I made a grease landing.  On  reflection, I was amazed at how easy the Rv was to fly, I had not had to give any conscious thought to flying while in the air. 

 

In fact, I find a Cessna 150 on a hot day much tougher to land.  The only thing I would caution if attempting this – it is better to keep the airspeed up a bit on the first couple of landings as the short wings are not very forgiving if you get a high sink rate going.  I would recommend keeping it up to 80 MPH IAS on final – particularly if you have a long run way.  That keeps the sink rate low and manageable.

 

Naturally with a tail dragger – keep those feet dancing on the peddles to keep the nose from wandering.  But, if you can land the Citabria without any problem, I would be very surprised if the RV would give you any.

 

Good luck on that first flight – although ""good preparation" would be a better saying.  But, don't let me or anyone else tempt you to do that first flight until you are good and ready.

 

Ed

 


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mike Wills
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 7:35 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mike Wills...when's your first flight?

 

Doug,

 

 The airplane is ready - the pilot not so much. I was gearing up with a CFI and did about 5 hours in a Citabria back in September. Was feeling pretty good about things and wanted to get in just another hour or two to brush up on wheel landings. Then spent the entire month of October and early November on the road. Also had some unexpected expenses during this time frame.

 

 So once the finances settle out and I can go get a few more hours of dual. I may still make one last attempt to get a few hours of RV dual too, but when I've looked into it in the past the guys who do that always seem to be scheduled 6 months in advance.

 

Mike Wills

RV-4 N144MW 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 2:52 AM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Mike Wills...when's your first flight?

 

Mike:

 

How soon until you slip the surley (spelling?) bonds of the earth with your RV-4?  It looked like you were about ready to fly when I saw it earlier in the year...

 

Fly safe!

 

Doug




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