X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.121] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.9) with ESMTP id 3270905 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:43:14 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.121; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from computername ([75.191.186.236]) by cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20081104134236.GSML11335.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@computername> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:42:36 +0000 From: "Ed Anderson" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Photos was [FlyRotary] Re: Alcoholic Rotary Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:42:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C93E59.4DEF0010" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ack+J5RUKCiMFWJhS3KruK8sAJnbogAWzx8g Message-Id: <20081104134236.GSML11335.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@computername> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C93E59.4DEF0010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, I use a different excuse, Bob. Being retired also, I tell folks that retirement is such hard work that if I had know what it was like, I would have kept a job {:>). No hurry, Bob, just interested if getting a copy if you had one. No need to go to any special effort. "You Tube?" What's "You Tube?" - just kidding, I really do know. Up to you, if you want to put it on You Tube, I have no objection. Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://www.andersonee.com http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bob Perkinson Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 9:46 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Photos was [FlyRotary] Re: Alcoholic Rotary Ed, You know that I am retired! That only means that I can't manage my time very well. I can give you lots of excuses as to why I haven't edited the video, but the truth is I just haven't. I haven't even looked at it. Give me a couple of days to get it loaded. If it is any good I can put it up on you tube if you like? Bob -------------- Original message from "Ed Anderson" : -------------- Hey, Bob I know I saw you taking photos/videos at Tracy's because you ask me not to run you down on take off {:>). Was wondering if you had a shot/video of my take off that you would send to me. I have cable so can handle quite large files Thanks Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://www.andersonee.com http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bob Perkinson Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 8:02 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Alcoholic Rotary There appear to be a lot of problems to solve to be able to run pure ethanol, but they don't appear to be insurmountable. You would need to be able to run any mixture of ethanol and gas to make it practicable, either that or you just stay around the home airport and your supply of white lightning. If the EC2 could handle a wide range of ethanol and gas mixtures that problem would be solved. Bob Perkinson -------------- Original message from "Tracy Crook" : -------------- Regarding power, the consensus of the car guys that are running 100% Ethanol, you can expect to make slightly more power partly due to the higher evaporative cooling but you will need to burn a lot more of it (about 2X in piston engines, no experience known in rotaries (Lynn?) Tracy On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Bob Perkinson wrote: This subject probably has been hashed around on this list before, but I will ask it again. What might be the estimated power output of the 13B be burning only Ethanol, and what other alteration would need to be preformed other than what are already preformed? I know the concerns about the effects of Ethanol on hoses and other flexible ancillaries. The reason that I am even thinking of running the engine on ethanol is there might be some federal money out there for R&D passed out through one of the local Universities. Just thinking about my piece of the pie. :>) Bob Perkinson RV-9 N68RP Reserved -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C93E59.4DEF0010 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Actually, I use a different excuse, = Bob.  Being retired also, I tell folks that retirement is such hard work that = if I had know what it was like, I would have kept a job {:>).   = No hurry, Bob, just interested if getting a copy if you had one.  No need to go to = any special effort. 

 

“You Tube?”  = What’s “You Tube?” – just kidding, I really do know.  Up to you, if you want to put it on You Tube, =  I have no objection.

 

Ed

 

Ed Anderson

Rv-6A N494BW Rotary = Powered

Matthews, NC

eanderson@carolina.rr.com=

http://www.andersonee.com

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From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bob Perkinson
Sent: Monday, November = 03, 2008 9:46 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Photos was [FlyRotary] Re: Alcoholic Rotary

 

Ed,
You know that I am retired!  That only means that I can't manage my = time very well.  I can give you  lots of excuses as to why I = haven't edited the video, but the truth is I just haven't.  I haven't even = looked at it.   Give me a couple of days to get it loaded.  If it is = any good I can put it up on you tube if you like?

Bob

 

-------------- Original message from "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>: --------------


Hey, = Bob

 

I know I saw you taking = photos/videos at Tracy’s because you ask me not to run you down on take off {:>).  Was = wondering if you had a shot/video of my take off that you would send to me.  = I have cable so can handle quite large = files

 

Thanks

Ed = Anderson

Rv-6A N494BW Rotary = Powered

Matthews, = NC

eanderson@carolina.rr.com

http://www.andersonee.com=

http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW

http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html<= o:p>

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bob Perkinson
Sent: Monday, November = 03, 2008 8:02 PM
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Alcoholic Rotary

 

There appear to be a lot of problems to solve to be able to run = pure ethanol, but they don't appear to be insurmountable.  You would = need to be able to run any mixture of ethanol and gas to make it practicable, = either that or you just stay around the home airport and your supply of white lightning.  If the EC2 could handle a wide range of ethanol and gas mixtures that problem would be solved.

Bob Perkinson


 

-------------- = Original message from "Tracy Crook" <tracy@rotaryaviation.com>: --------------

Regarding power, the consensus of the car guys that are running 100% = Ethanol, you can expect to make slightly more power partly due to the higher = evaporative cooling but you will need to burn a lot more of it (about 2X in piston = engines, no experience known in rotaries (Lynn?)

Tracy

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Bob Perkinson <bobperk90658@bellsouth.net= > wrote:

This subject probably has been hashed around on this list = before, but I will ask it again. What might be the estimated power output of the 13B = be burning only Ethanol, and what other alteration would need to be = preformed other than what are already preformed?
I know the concerns about the effects of Ethanol on hoses and other = flexible ancillaries.
The reason that I am even thinking of running the engine on ethanol is = there might be some federal money out there for R&D passed out through one = of the local Universities.
Just thinking about my piece of the pie. :>)

Bob Perkinson
RV-9 N68RP Reserved

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