X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net ([207.115.11.55] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.9) with ESMTP id 3270420 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:46:44 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.115.11.55; envelope-from=bobperk9@bellsouth.net Received: from fwebmail31.isp.att.net ([204.127.221.131]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc05) with SMTP id <20081104024608H0500j3e0ue>; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 02:46:08 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [204.127.221.131] Received: from [74.249.247.155] by fwebmail31.isp.att.net; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:46:07 +0000 From: "Bob Perkinson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Photos was [FlyRotary] Re: Alcoholic Rotary Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:46:07 +0000 Message-Id: <110420080246.24638.490FB76F0000CF520000603E22243322829B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFC7059D0A9F0D010D@att.net> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2008) X-Authenticated-Sender: Ym9icGVyazlAYmVsbHNvdXRoLm5ldA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_24638_1225766767_0" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_24638_1225766767_0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ed, You know that I am retired! That only means that I can't manage my time ve= ry well. I can give you lots of excuses as to why I haven't edited the vi= deo, but the truth is I just haven't. I haven't even looked at it. Give = me a couple of days to get it loaded. If it is any good I can put it up on= you tube if you like? Bob -------------- Original message from "Ed Anderson" : -------------- Hey, Bob =20 I know I saw you taking photos/videos at Tracy=E2=80=99s because you askme = not to run you down on take off {:>). Was wondering if you had a shot/vide= oof my take off that you would send to me. I have cable so can handle quit= elarge files =20 Thanks Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://www.andersonee.com http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html From: Rotary motors in aircraft[mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] OnBehal= f Of Bob Perkinson Sent: Monday, November 03, 20088:02 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: AlcoholicRotary =20 There appear to be a lot of problems to solve to be able to run pureethanol= , but they don't appear to be insurmountable. You would need to beable to = run any mixture of ethanol and gas to make it practicable, either thator yo= u just stay around the home airport and your supply of whitelightning. If = the EC2 could handle a wide range of ethanol and gasmixtures that problem w= ould be solved. Bob Perkinson =20 -------------- Originalmessage from "Tracy Crook" :--------------=20 Regarding power, the consensus of the car guys that are running 100% Ethano= l,you can expect to make slightly more power partly due to the higher evapo= rativecooling but you will need to burn a lot more of it (about 2X in pisto= n engines,no experience known in rotaries (Lynn?) Tracy On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Bob Perkinson = wrote: This subject probably has been hashed around on this list before, but Iwill= ask it again. What might be the estimated power output of the 13B beburnin= g only Ethanol, and what other alteration would need to be preformedother t= han what are already preformed? I know the concerns about the effects of Ethanol on hoses and other flexibl= eancillaries. The reason that I am even thinking of running the engine on ethanol is ther= emight be some federal money out there for R&D passed out through one of th= elocal Universities. Just thinking about my piece of the pie. :>) Bob Perkinson RV-9 N68RP Reserved -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.= html =20 __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signatur= edatabase 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_24638_1225766767_0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_24638_1225766767_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_24638_1225766767_1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=20 Ed,
You know that I am retired!  That only means that I can't manag= e my time very well.  I can give you  lots of excuses as to why I= haven't edited the video, but the truth is I just haven't.  I haven't= even looked at it.   Give me a couple of days to get it loaded. = If it is any good I can put it up on you tube if you like?

Bob
<= !--<BR>-->
 
-------------- Original message from "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.= rr.com>: --------------

Hey, Bob<= /o:p>

 

I know I saw y= ou taking photos/videos at Tra= cy=E2=80=99s because you ask me not to run you down on take off {:>).  Was wondering if you had = a shot/video of my take off that you would send to me.  I have cable so can handle = quite large files

 

Thanks

Ed Anderson=

Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Po= wered

Matthews, NC

eanderson@carolina.rr.= com

http://www.andersonee.com

http://members.cox.net/roger= sda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW

http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Bob Perkinson
Sent: Monday, November 03,= 2008 8:02 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: A= lcoholic Rotary

 

There appear to be a lot of problems to solve to be = able to run pure ethanol, but they don't appear to be insurmountable.  You would need t= o be able to run any mixture of ethanol and gas to make it practicable, either t= hat or you just stay around the home airport and your supply of white lightning.  If the EC2 could handle a wide range of ethanol and gas mixtures that problem would be solved.

Bob Perkinson

 

-------------- Origin= al message from "Tracy Crook" <tracy@rotaryaviation.com>: --------------

Regarding power, the consensus of the car guys that are running 100% Ethano= l, you can expect to make slightly more power partly due to the higher evapora= tive cooling but you will need to burn a lot more of it (about 2X in piston engi= nes, no experience known in rotaries (Lynn?)

Tracy

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Bob Perkinson <<= a href=3D"mailto:bobperk90658@bellsouth.net">bobperk90658@bellsouth.net= > wrote:

This subject probably has been hashed around on this= list before, but I will ask it again. What might be the estimated power output of the 13B be burning only Ethanol, and what other alteration would need to be preformed other than what are already preformed?
I know the concerns about the effects of Ethanol on hoses and other flexibl= e ancillaries.
The reason that I am even thinking of running the engine on ethanol is ther= e might be some federal money out there for R&D passed out through one of= the local Universities.
Just thinking about my piece of the pie. :>)

Bob Perkinson
RV-9 N68RP Reserved

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