X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net ([207.115.11.51] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.9) with ESMTP id 3270328 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:02:33 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.115.11.51; envelope-from=bobperk9@bellsouth.net Received: from fwebmail31.isp.att.net ([207.115.9.161]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc01) with SMTP id <20081104010155H01000qf92e>; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 01:01:55 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [207.115.9.161] Received: from [74.249.247.155] by fwebmail31.isp.att.net; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:01:52 +0000 From: "Bob Perkinson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Alcoholic Rotary Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:01:52 +0000 Message-Id: <110420080101.23224.490F9EFF000C83DA00005AB822243322829B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFC7059D0A9F0D010D@att.net> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2008) X-Authenticated-Sender: Ym9icGVyazlAYmVsbHNvdXRoLm5ldA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_23224_1225760512_0" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_23224_1225760512_0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There appear to be a lot of problems to solve to be able to run pure ethan= ol, but they don't appear to be insurmountable. You would need to be able = to run any mixture of ethanol and gas to make it practicable, either that o= r you just stay around the home airport and your supply of white lightning.= If the EC2 could handle a wide range of ethanol and gas mixtures that pro= blem would be solved. Bob Perkinson -------------- Original message from "Tracy Crook" : -------------- Regarding power, the consensus of the car guys that are running 100% Ethano= l, you can expect to make slightly more power partly due to the higher evap= orative cooling but you will need to burn a lot more of it (about 2X in pis= ton engines, no experience known in rotaries (Lynn?) Tracy On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Bob Perkinson = wrote: This subject probably has been hashed around on this list before, but I wil= l ask it again. What might be the estimated power output of the 13B be burn= ing only Ethanol, and what other alteration would need to be preformed othe= r than what are already preformed? I know the concerns about the effects of Ethanol on hoses and other flexibl= e ancillaries. The reason that I am even thinking of running the engine on ethanol is ther= e might be some federal money out there for R&D passed out through one of t= he local Universities. Just thinking about my piece of the pie. :>) Bob Perkinson RV-9 N68RP Reserved -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.= html --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_23224_1225760512_0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_23224_1225760512_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_23224_1225760512_1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=20 There appear to be a lot of problems to solve to be able to run pure ethano= l, but they don't appear to be insurmountable.  You would need to be a= ble to run any mixture of ethanol and gas to make it practicable, either th= at or you just stay around the home airport and your supply of white lightn= ing.  If the EC2 could handle a wide range of ethanol and gas mixtures= that problem would be solved.

Bob Perkinson
 
-------------- Original message from "Tracy Crook" <tracy@rotaryaviatio= n.com>: --------------

Regarding power, the consensus of the car guys that are running 100% Ethano= l, you can expect to make slightly more power partly due to the higher evap= orative cooling but you will need to burn a lot more of it (about 2X in pis= ton engines, no experience known in rotaries (Lynn?)

Tracy

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:42 PM= , Bob Perkinson <bobperk90658@bellsouth.net> wrote:
This subject probably has been hashed around on this list before, but I wil= l ask it again. What might be the estimated power output of the 13B be burn= ing only Ethanol, and what other alteration would need to be preformed othe= r than what are already preformed?
I know the concerns about the effects of Ethanol on hoses and other flexibl= e ancillaries.
The reason that I am even thinking of running the engine on ethanol is ther= e might be some federal money out there for R&D passed out through one = of the local Universities.
Just thinking about my piece of the pie. :>)

Bob Perkinson
RV-9 N68RP Reserved

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