X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com ([209.85.198.227] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.9) with ESMTP id 3250065 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 09:14:10 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.198.227; envelope-from=rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f6so2372780rvb.7 for ; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 06:13:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=7PdsMpM5GoQSINHUk+G1Qix4hWcQgOxW8kgrroUlUG8=; b=NXBYyc9EIk6zLOLIRZH+zNUpV31SmgMxWePCvnjCnFCSt/95gJGaWa2N2gyw4Mf7h+ 9ly+nSebXH9Y7Qiw9PKg52qOnpP+wcHaAhRB2/Shn3cO694X6XubK4WdWvnuUpKZy7w7 PJYFhTqzDo1EUmc4AkSuQ011AsNmiIkqFhAVE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=JgzmLqRLLUi2KfhrR52Nk/WkKAOMeC+cW32XUa4dGpEiphrtpCT/niYcqH21G4zID/ oDiETXjkCN7QfP/Lljlj+GlweftyMY8fbo3fMsI/De50DN0aK+kOzOPW0Ss2fs1kUT5B RdVk5FBh7W3KWJaAJGKtKxZSb4CZ8Fdmb2hjQ= Received: by 10.141.53.4 with SMTP id f4mr8179731rvk.82.1225635214072; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 06:13:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.41.18 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 06:13:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1b4b137c0811020613h3faa794eu39acddfb9c59e900@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 09:13:34 -0500 From: "Tracy Crook" Sender: rwstracy@gmail.com To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Alcoholic Rotary In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_33362_29570377.1225635214083" References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2386576c3ea01708 ------=_Part_33362_29570377.1225635214083 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Regarding power, the consensus of the car guys that are running 100% Ethanol, you can expect to make slightly more power partly due to the higher evaporative cooling but you will need to burn a lot more of it (about 2X in piston engines, no experience known in rotaries (Lynn?) Tracy On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Bob Perkinson wrote: > This subject probably has been hashed around on this list before, but I > will ask it again. What might be the estimated power output of the 13B be > burning only Ethanol, and what other alteration would need to be preformed > other than what are already preformed? > I know the concerns about the effects of Ethanol on hoses and other > flexible ancillaries. > The reason that I am even thinking of running the engine on ethanol is > there might be some federal money out there for R&D passed out through one > of the local Universities. > Just thinking about my piece of the pie. :>) > > Bob Perkinson > RV-9 N68RP Reserved > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > ------=_Part_33362_29570377.1225635214083 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Regarding power, the consensus of the car guys that are running 100% Ethanol, you can expect to make slightly more power partly due to the higher evaporative cooling but you will need to burn a lot more of it (about 2X in piston engines, no experience known in rotaries (Lynn?)

Tracy

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Bob Perkinson <bobperk90658@bellsouth.net> wrote:
This subject probably has been hashed around on this list before, but I will ask it again. What might be the estimated power output of the 13B be burning only Ethanol, and what other alteration would need to be preformed other than what are already preformed?
I know the concerns about the effects of Ethanol on hoses and other flexible ancillaries.
The reason that I am even thinking of running the engine on ethanol is there might be some federal money out there for R&D passed out through one of the local Universities.
Just thinking about my piece of the pie. :>)

Bob Perkinson
RV-9 N68RP Reserved

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