X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au ([211.29.132.189] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.7) with ESMTPS id 3116759 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 06 Sep 2008 01:40:24 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=211.29.132.189; envelope-from=lendich@optusnet.com.au Received: from george (d211-31-70-177.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.31.70.177]) by mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id m865dekt000724 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2008 15:39:42 +1000 Message-ID: <003001c90fe2$f90f8820$6400a8c0@george> From: "George Lendich" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: New rotary engine-mazda points on design Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 15:39:45 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080905-0, 05/09/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Yes of course Andrew, As a matter of fact the chap that supplied most of those Renesis engines is local to me, but I didn't buy one as I was looking at needing Peripheral ported single rotor engine. However I noticed the Renesis engines without the fancy inlet manifold was similar in power to the RX7 - therefore no real advantage. I did however buy a Renesis rotor and cut 3mm apex seals grooves for the higher compression and found out later the higher compression gave only higher torque, but no real advantage in hp. No real advantage in that either but they were half the cost. The larger eccentric ( how large ?) will improve torque and the bigger volume will improve HP- so that's good. The rest is just suck and see. George (down under) > George > Lots of us are playing with the pre-production and test Renesis engines > in our aircraft now without problems as thats what was available when > trying to acquire one, unless of course you managed to side swipe a RX-8 > on the highway and buy the wreck from the insurance company. I can't wait > to see a car on the road with one of these 16X engines in it. (joking of > course) > > Andrew Martin > ALW speed 4000, Renesis. RWS everything. > Western Australia. > > > > > > > On 06/09/2008, at 5:48 AM, George Lendich wrote: > >> Ed, >> I was wondering about all that and hope any gains aren't negated by the >> removal of some highly tuned and complicated intake manifold, that won't >> fit into a cowl- like the Renesis manifold. >> >> There is also the concern of how good the surface treatment of the >> aluminium side housing are going to be. I guess only time will tell. I >> hate the first release of anything like this, it invariably has >> problems. >> >> Then there's the complexity of injection and the very high pressure of >> direct injection, as well as the associated hardware and much needed >> software to make it all work. >> >> Those sorts of things tend to temper my enthusiasm or am I just jaded >> through old age. >> George (down under) >>> Thanks, Marc. >>> >>> What can I say but ...Drool..... >>> >>> Can't wait!! I was contemplating a point and time to swap out my old >>> 91 >>> turbo block for a Renesis - and now I believe the ideal time is when >>> they >>> come out with the 16X. Can you imagine approx 40 more HP and less >>> weight >>> than the current 13B - Lycomings wouldn't even be in the game {:>)!! >>> >>> Like I said ...Drool.... >>> >>> Ed Anderson >>> >>> Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered >>> >>> Matthews, NC >>> >>> eanderson@carolina.rr.com >>> >>> http://www.andersonee.com >>> >>> http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW >>> >>> http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On >>> Behalf Of Marc Wiese >>> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 9:22 PM >>> To: Rotary motors in aircraft >>> Subject: [FlyRotary] New rotary engine-mazda points on design >>> >>> Fellow Rotary Enthusiast: >>> >>> Some nice info on the new Mazda 16x RE at the following: >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.mazda.com/mazdaspirit/rotary/16x/ >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: >>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>> signature >>> database 3267 (20080714) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>> signature >>> database 3267 (20080714) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: >>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: >> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html