X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com ([209.85.198.229] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.6) with ESMTP id 3077442 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:01:31 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.198.229; envelope-from=rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f6so664595rvb.7 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:00:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=xr3/D1Cjg6n2C4FqlbuzWxgBmzvdnqDqllISFDBrDf0=; b=RB2lH2Rrh1XjnSPgBibS7uEFlLmbHpGlrmEBFzDbmr3u4p5XATtjCMfLiiVwxAB/YC HyrZ9Gk65CJt0J/nSez4KQYII29md5SQsWxoUfaGjT0lq/fv1jzNZOWMCeSSQchuRm9B f9F8LZnbpIWCld9qkBzsfeuPMPzRH52HMe36Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=pFiKd2QLd8usLpust0QH1ddv5XoAYa2hJNhpy54zlmUiVNL0PWHGCI9jcmpkrDkfsm MOVl8gT7UzvQq3vih4XMh/RLWTGnk9WevQ+rV6VzKX7x+Zg45HdFwY16kCCkqKC3l9WR hkl2oMlVpnFRJyzZ+b5ep+jgLSq5HM6Szobcc= Received: by 10.141.164.13 with SMTP id r13mr1184146rvo.53.1218769252661; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.41.18 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1b4b137c0808142000w6bf92e35idd756b8f4319d9b0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:00:52 -0400 From: "Tracy Crook" Sender: rwstracy@gmail.com To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: MoGas In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_112938_6248582.1218769252643" References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: eec1f7b4b3757134 ------=_Part_112938_6248582.1218769252643 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Motor fuel cost around the world is often unrelated to the cost to produce it. Gasoline has been $7.00 a gal or so for years in Europe. We all know why. Does anyone believe that the cost of Vodka is related to the cost of Ethanol? The government's 'sin tax' on liquor expanded to include motor fuel in a lot of countries. I'm sure you have heard those who want that to happen here as well. Tracy On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Bob Perkinson wrote: > I just returned from Brasil last week MoGas was R$2.89 per liter which > converts to around $7.00 per gallon. Ethanol was R$1.79 per Liter or $4.38 > per gallon. Driving one of those ethanol powered cars is a frighting > experiance especilly whien you are use to having power when you push on the > peddle. If Brasil is energy independant the government is not passing on > the savings to the public down there. > I have to agree with Lynn, the only thing the government is going to do is > make sure that it serves itself. It is like the war on drugs, why would law > enforcement want to win? To much money at risk. > > Bob Perkinson > > -------------- Original message from "George Lendich" < > lendich@optusnet.com.au>: -------------- > > George wrote: > > "I read an article I found somewhere that Corn actually produces more > alcohol (per bushel) than any other crop, for instance sugar cane produces > about 1/3 rd less." > > You've been getting your reading material from some very suspect sources > (Corn Farming Weelky? :>). This is scientifically verifiable BS. Sugarcane > is about 8 times more efficient that corn. It's so good that the US Gov. > is "protecting" us by banning imports of Brasilian ethanol. Just not fair > competition for corn farmers. > > Must change subjects, I'll flunk my 3'rd class physical due to high blood > pressure. > > Tracy > Tracy, > I stand corrected, now I have to retrace my steps and correct that info > passed to people I've previously educated on the subject - bugger! > George ( down under) > > ------=_Part_112938_6248582.1218769252643 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Motor fuel cost around the world is often unrelated to the cost to produce it.  Gasoline has been $7.00 a gal or so for years in Europe.  We all know why.
 
Does anyone believe that the cost of Vodka is related to the cost of Ethanol?   The government's 'sin tax' on liquor expanded to include motor fuel in a lot of countries.  I'm sure you have heard those who want that to happen here as well.
 
Tracy   

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Bob Perkinson <bobperk90658@bellsouth.net> wrote:
 I just returned from Brasil last week MoGas was R$2.89 per liter which converts to around $7.00 per gallon.  Ethanol was R$1.79 per Liter or $4.38 per gallon.  Driving one of those ethanol powered cars is a frighting experiance especilly whien you are use to having power when you push on the peddle.  If Brasil is energy independant the government is not passing on the savings to the public down there. 
I have to agree with Lynn,  the only thing the government is going to do is make sure that it serves itself.  It is like the war on drugs, why would law enforcement want to win?  To much money at risk.

Bob Perkinson
-------------- Original message from "George Lendich" <lendich@optusnet.com.au>: --------------

George wrote:
"I read an article I found somewhere that Corn actually produces more alcohol (per bushel) than any other crop, for instance sugar cane produces about 1/3 rd less."
 
 You've been getting your reading material from some very suspect sources (Corn Farming Weelky? :>).  This is scientifically verifiable BS.  Sugarcane is about 8 times more efficient that corn.  It's so good that the US Gov.  is "protecting" us by banning imports of Brasilian ethanol.  Just not fair competition for corn farmers.   
 
Must change subjects, I'll flunk my 3'rd class physical due to high blood pressure.
 
Tracy 
Tracy,
I stand corrected, now I have to retrace my steps and correct that info passed to people I've previously educated on the subject - bugger!
George ( down under)

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