Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #43271
From: George Lendich <lendich@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral/ Intake manifolds
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:58:31 +1000
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Greg,
The 'Bill's' stands for Bill Jepson - VAM stands for Vortex Augmented Muffler. All 1.6MM thickness SS material.
George (down under)
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Ward
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:25 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral/ Intake manifolds

Thanks George, any information you can give me would be appreciated.  If I see something I like, I jump on it, especially if it proves safer, faster, more efficient, and last, prettier......(:-)  Definitely want to see your exhaust design and calcs, to compare with what I am doing, thanks.  Where is PL's site?
Regards;
Greg
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 5:34 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral/ Intake manifolds

Greg,
Their intake is very good, I prompted Francois on going PP but he wasn't interested - claiming PP =reduced longevity. Of course any engine running harder will not last as long and their aiming for longevity.
 
So the intake is a 4 port ( I think), pretty standard construction but with a very nice fuel catcher, very neat indeed.
 
I really couldn't give any idea on which intake is the best, as you say their all different but if you come up with a good design and it is proven and cost effective, your on a winner. I'm sure Mistral wouldn't mind the competition.
 
I passed the exhaust design on to PL's site, so I will pass them on here it your interested.
 
Greg I also have some calculations on intake sizing, if your interested - if it helps.
 
George (down under)
Hey George;
I have no argument with that, and my sympathy goes to them on their recent crash, but they could at least return an email or a call and tell me to go to hell.  Didn't even get that, and I may have been a potential client for an engine.  Not a good way to do Public Relations, and I being in business, can relate to that.
Greg
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 3:57 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral/ Intake manifolds

Greg,
To be fair, their up to their neck in work trying to get their own development sorted out, this last problem with the exhaust wasn't particularly helpful.
The problem is, from what I hear, that us experimental chaps take up a lot of time and they haven't got the time to put to such small sales. Things may be better down the track, when they have everything sorted.
 
I've even offered Mistral details of an exhaust that Bill Jepson and I have been working on and they didn't even respond to that, I"M SURE only because they haven't got the time
George (down under) 
If you knew what I have been going through getting a turbo manifold for a 20B built, you wouldn't even try.  I tried communicating with Mistral several times about one of their manifolds, there was no interest in helping me out.
Greg Ward
Lancair 20B in progress
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 7:51 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Mistral/ Intake manifolds

Just thought I'd ask around. A few people purchased intake manifolds from Mistral and I'm trying to find out a few things about them.

First of all, what versions of the 13B did they fit? How much do they weigh? Originally, what were they selling them for.

 

As I understand it, they no longer sell them to joe-public, nor do the new unit's fit on the standard 13B? Are there builders out there who would prefer to buy a ready to install manifold for their projects?

 

Thanks guy's!

Jarrett Johnson

 

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