X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from WA4EHSOBE005.bigfish.com ([216.32.181.16] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.3) with ESMTPS id 2961376 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:10:59 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.32.181.16; envelope-from=Grant.Schemmel@Aeroflex.com Received: from mail101-wa4-R.bigfish.com (10.8.14.251) by WA4EHSOBE005.bigfish.com (10.8.40.25) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.240.5; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:10:21 +0000 Received: from mail101-wa4 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail101-wa4-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE5F217784B7 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:10:21 +0000 (UTC) X-BigFish: VPS-36(zz709fM542Na0dJ7efV1447Rzzzzz32i6bh61h) X-Spam-TCS-SCL: 0:0 Received: by mail101-wa4 (MessageSwitch) id 1213103417570134_13372; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:10:17 +0000 (UCT) Received: from sec-fe1.aeroflex.com (sec-fe1.aeroflex.com [199.4.132.6]) by mail101-wa4.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F30DB10092 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:10:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from EVS2.aeroflex.corp ([10.50.1.101]) by sec-fe1.aeroflex.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:10:16 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C8CAFB.533904F2" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Steam engines Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:10:15 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: Steam engines Thread-Index: AcjKuL6OpmA+r5++QqueNGjPD+ZbowAQfKSA References: From: "Schemmel, Grant" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2008 13:10:16.0523 (UTC) FILETIME=[536BB9B0:01C8CAFB] Return-Path: Grant.Schemmel@Aeroflex.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8CAFB.533904F2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Todd, = Thanks for the information, and I will check into it, as I'm still in the learning/research stage anyway. I think the explosive potential for what I have in mind may be considerably less though, as the boiler would be something about the size of a coffee can at the focus of a parabolic reflector. = Grant Schemmel ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Todd Bartrim Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 11:13 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Steam engines = = Hi Grant; My previous occupation was as a Power Engineer (steam) for 14 years in a large industrial powerplant operating 2 large boilers (260 tonnes/hr & 180 tonnes/hr). I'm currently an Instrument Mechanic in the same plant. Believe me when I say that steam generation is not to be taken lightly. Many people died back in the old days before it became regulated. I know that the US has different regulations concerning the design, fabrication and maintenance of boilers and auxiliaries, but in Canada it is quite strictly regulated. But I wouldn't expect the blessing of any regulatory bodies regardless of where you live in the US. I'd expect that it would be a federal jurisdiction. Shouldn't be too hard to figure out. I'd look on the net... but I'm exhausted and going to bed now. When I got my ticket 21 years ago the net wasn't even invented yet, so it was mostly done through correspondence, firing time at work and school time at BCIT, but you may find some info to get you started if you Google "power engineering". At the very least you should be able to find some youtube videos of pressure vessel explosions etc. (I've seen some in the past), that will either scare you off the idea or really get you hooked... depending on your personality. Not trying to talk you out of it, just want you to be aware of the potential power. = Todd Bartrim = -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Schemmel, Grant Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 6:22 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Steam engines = Thanks for the suggestions Bob. At this point I'm still in the learning process on steam generation, as I have an electrical engineering background, with electrician and mechanic experience thrown in, but none of it power generation related. Got some boning up to do on the whole subject before I even start the design effort. It sounds like you might have experience with this - got any suggestions as to some reading material? = Thanks = = Grant Schemmel = = Notice: This e-mail is intended solely for use of the individual or entity = to which it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, p= rivileged, company confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applica= ble law. If the reader is not the intended recipient or agent responsible f= or delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notifie= d that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is = strictly prohibited. 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Hi Todd,
 
Thanks for the information, and I will check = into it, = as I'm still in the learning/research stage anyway.  I think the explo= sive = potential for what I have in mind may be considerably less though, as the b= oiler = would be something about the size of a coffee can at the focus of a parabol= ic = reflector.
 
Grant Schemmel

From: Rotary motors in aircraft = [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Todd = Bartrim
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 11:13 PM
To: Rota= ry = motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Steam = engines

Hi = Grant;

       &nbs= p;    = My previous occupation was as a Power Engineer (steam) for 14 year= s in = a large industrial powerplant operating 2 large boilers (260 tonnes/hr &a= mp; = 180 tonnes/hr). I’m currently an Instrument Mechanic in the same pl= ant. = Believe me when I say that steam generation is not to be taken lightly. M= any = people died back in the old days before it became regulated. I know that = the = US has different regulations concerning the design, fabrication and = maintenance of boilers and auxiliaries, but in Canada it is quite strictl= y = regulated. But I wouldn’t expect the blessing of any regulatory bod= ies = regardless of where you live in the US. I’d expect that it would be= a federal = jurisdiction. Shouldn’t be too hard to figure out. I’d look o= n the net… but = I’m exhausted and going to bed now.=

       &nbs= p;    = When I got my ticket 21 years ago the net wasn’t even invent= ed yet, so = it was mostly done through correspondence, firing time at work and school= time = at BCIT, but you may find some info to get you started if you Google R= 20;power = engineering”. At the very least you should be able to find some you= tube videos = of pressure vessel explosions etc. (I’ve seen some in the past), th= at will = either scare you off the idea or really get you hooked… depending o= n your = personality.

       &nbs= p;    = Not trying to talk you out of it, just want you to be aware of the= = potential power.

 =

Todd = Bartrim

 =

-----Origina= l = Message-----
From: Rot= ary = motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Schemmel, Grant
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 6:22 = AM
To: Rotary motors i= n = aircraft
Subject: [Fly= Rotary] = Re: Steam engines

 =

Thanks = for the suggestions Bob.  At this point I'm still in the learning pr= ocess = on steam generation, as I have an electrical engineering background, with= = electrician and mechanic experience thrown in, but none of it power gener= ation = related.  Got some boning up to do on the whole subject before I eve= n = start the design effort.  It sounds like you might have experience w= ith = this - got any suggestions as to some reading material?

 

Thanks =

 

Grant = Schemmel

 

 


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