X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.168] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.3) with ESMTP id 2960986 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:13:35 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.200.168; envelope-from=bartrim@gmail.com Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so2488806wfg.25 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:12:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority :x-mailer:importance:in-reply-to:x-mimeole; bh=mhdS8R4Z/FsbWtZN5AIhsWtHjrbt9V1gCiFdEWnd9oo=; b=nh7s0H/R5rTTxsVZ7f7HOa5HOVCvsR1vpWfIrZSi8cW511r04pW7SvOWrovytjjIeX BZoRLCYaChFI3a8J5DsCTHPLwWRfMHOqhZNEdSaN9cUefQ7bINZakzm9DG2WzZOVi5GF TqHo1DXbCgZEqG2hwrbaNlAxdnzzrnW/bAhsY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:importance:in-reply-to :x-mimeole; b=cydCeH666x0HlmM8X/6lefBvKuUXkml4o6JCC71qY16GJ5J+R21I7g+tE1HiKNN3wQ v8OlF0kn4Tx6jqQIc1H2b8gqt6/4cdNiHPr3O1VwMJTy6HWn8ckcXRNW95Z85agFvGp6 eMPhW0+4dvdo3PbrBbhnxRwDNXEwdmVHUZxRo= Received: by 10.142.99.21 with SMTP id w21mr1843944wfb.55.1213074776677; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:12:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from Endurance ( [154.5.208.19]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 24sm12834544wfc.3.2008.06.09.22.12.55 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:12:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "Todd Bartrim" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Steam engines Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:13:06 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01C8CA7D.FE2AA6F0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C8CA7D.FE2AA6F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Grant; My previous occupation was as a Power Engineer (steam) for 14 years in a large industrial powerplant operating 2 large boilers (260 tonnes/hr & 180 tonnes/hr). I'm currently an Instrument Mechanic in the same plant. Believe me when I say that steam generation is not to be taken lightly. Many people died back in the old days before it became regulated. I know that the US has different regulations concerning the design, fabrication and maintenance of boilers and auxiliaries, but in Canada it is quite strictly regulated. But I wouldn't expect the blessing of any regulatory bodies regardless of where you live in the US. I'd expect that it would be a federal jurisdiction. Shouldn't be too hard to figure out. I'd look on the net. but I'm exhausted and going to bed now. When I got my ticket 21 years ago the net wasn't even invented yet, so it was mostly done through correspondence, firing time at work and school time at BCIT, but you may find some info to get you started if you Google "power engineering". At the very least you should be able to find some youtube videos of pressure vessel explosions etc. (I've seen some in the past), that will either scare you off the idea or really get you hooked. depending on your personality. Not trying to talk you out of it, just want you to be aware of the potential power. Todd Bartrim -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Schemmel, Grant Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 6:22 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Steam engines Thanks for the suggestions Bob. At this point I'm still in the learning process on steam generation, as I have an electrical engineering background, with electrician and mechanic experience thrown in, but none of it power generation related. Got some boning up to do on the whole subject before I even start the design effort. It sounds like you might have experience with this - got any suggestions as to some reading material? Thanks Grant Schemmel ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C8CA7D.FE2AA6F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi= Grant;

        = ;    My previous occupation was as a Power Engineer (steam) for 14 years in a = large industrial powerplant operating 2 large boilers (260 tonnes/hr & 180 tonnes/hr). I’m currently an Instrument Mechanic in the same = plant. Believe me when I say that steam generation is not to be taken lightly. Many people = died back in the old days before it became regulated. I know that the US has = different regulations concerning the design, fabrication and maintenance of = boilers and auxiliaries, but in Canada it is quite strictly regulated. But I = wouldn’t expect the blessing of any regulatory bodies regardless of where you = live in the US. I’d expect that it would be a federal jurisdiction. = Shouldn’t be too hard to figure out. I’d look on the net… but I’m = exhausted and going to bed now.

        = ;    When I got my ticket 21 years ago the net wasn’t even invented yet, so = it was mostly done through correspondence, firing time at work and school time at = BCIT, but you may find some info to get you started if you Google “power = engineering”. At the very least you should be able to find some youtube videos of = pressure vessel explosions etc. (I’ve seen some in the past), that will = either scare you off the idea or really get you hooked… depending on your = personality.

        = ;    Not trying to talk you out of it, just want you to be aware of the potential = power.

 

Todd Bartrim<= o:p>

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From: Rotary motors in = aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Schemmel, Grant
Sent: Monday, June 09, = 2008 6:22 AM
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Steam engines

 

Thanks for the suggestions Bob.  At this point I'm still in the learning process = on steam generation, as I have an electrical engineering background, with = electrician and mechanic experience thrown in, but none of it power generation related.  Got some boning up to do on the whole subject before I = even start the design effort.  It sounds like you might have experience = with this - got any suggestions as to some reading = material?<= /p>

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Thanks = <= /p>

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Grant = Schemmel<= /p>

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