X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from outbound-mail.vgs.untd.com ([64.136.55.15] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.3) with SMTP id 2957953 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:57:25 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.136.55.15; envelope-from=alwick@juno.com X-UOL-TAGLINE: true Received: from Penny (70-59-149-198.ptld.qwest.net [70.59.149.198]) by smtpout06.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABEEX7SNA2KXMB2 for (sender ); Sat, 7 Jun 2008 13:56:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: "Al Wick" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral Crash Analysis Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 13:56:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18000 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080607-0, 06/07/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-ContentStamp: 12:6:4138375599 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: L941HVjjYzDhN3itp//mkAMJdNLvLNn8y4lS6Okm5PuCKpcaTP2FaQ== X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.181.42.36|smtpout06.vgs.untd.com|smtpout06.vgs.untd.com|alwick@juno.com C'mon guys. You do this every time there's a crash. Instantly go into rationalization mode. It's unhealthy. Greatly increases risk builders won't take action. Increases risk you won't research it thoroughly. A healthy response would be:" Here's another example of how our engines produce unusually destructive exhaust temperature and pulses. We have a rich history of broken exhaust components. We need to be very thorough when designing and building exhaust." I designed my own muffler. It had two inlets, two outlets. So if (when) my muffler failed, it could never block both pipes. I also put loose safety wire around my pipes, because on a pusher loosing pipe wipes out prop. So basically, I assume stuff will fail, then design it to control the way it fails. I've heard of rotary guys doing same type of thing. This is a good time to share those key items. On your car, they deliberately design products to fail a certain way. They will make a component weak, so it fails first. They do that with wheels and hubs. So when the muffler fails, little pieces come apart, not big sections? You guys do a great job of sharing successes, design and construction details. This is another opportunity. -al wick ). But, I serious doubt it will effect many who have researched the rotary and come to understand its benefits - as for the rest, who cares {:>) > I'm certain it was a relief to Mistral that the culprit was not one of their engine components. Whew! a close one for sure. Hi Ed, Unfortunately, I bet the majority of people will only hear "Mistral rotary", "lost power", and "crash" :-( Rusty (RV-3 taking forever.) ____________________________________________________________ Orlando Vacations - Click Here! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nK7u59LkagfZ5IcEgGqYcvPRCwA85GgQITbFK9vE7wPGKFP/