X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from web52712.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.48.235] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.3) with SMTP id 2952397 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:46:20 -0400 Received: (qmail 1192 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jun 2008 02:46:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=t1hYXoQfC1wMOyuJaWjVPR2nahw0wE8GX/cNhvj4zn8hC86EiJs5yOCUFaE1D0ZaKBGssC6UOHV9Gr5fc27xTC0Zerx9zAp8oJotFpbRJe6A/wOmBx3Z2t5uSPtew+D5e5ePbmagsMOyTo/+KCjUE6N0RgRk9l2mqdZadENtMAA=; Received: from [24.113.18.62] by web52712.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:46:20 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 19:46:20 -0700 (PDT) From: John Overman Reply-To: mooneydryver@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] combined starter alternator To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <760609.99384.qm@web52712.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Back in the 1930s, I believe it was Dodge that manufactured a car where the starter was also the generator. It must not have had a bendix to mesh with the flywheel because it was said to be very quiet when it started John --- On Tue, 6/3/08, George Lendich wrote: > From: George Lendich > Subject: [FlyRotary] combined starter alternator > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Date: Tuesday, June 3, 2008, 3:28 PM > Directed to the electronic wiz types. > > This is not a development issue but an educational issue as > I would like to understand the issues associated with > developing a starter alternator. > > Personally I believe a combined starter, alternator, > flywheel, damper, timing wheel and pick up would be a great > advantage (we live to dream). > Some systems use the combined starter alternator attached > to the gear box shaft just, between the motor and the > gearbox fluid damper. > > I believe from talking to Bill Jepson that getting > sufficient power from the current winding used is > problematic but that there had been major improvements in > this field. Also reading a little on the Internet ( if I > understand it correctly) an alternator is AC ( alternating > current) and a generator is DC. As Batteries are DC and > starters are DC, we would need to use a DC generator > winding in the starter generator (someone tell if I'm > wrong here). > > Of course nothing is as simple as this, so I'm keen to > understand the issues associated - from anyone out there in > the electronics world!? > George (down under).