X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao105.cox.net ([68.230.241.41] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.3) with ESMTP id 2928429 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 19 May 2008 02:08:49 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.41; envelope-from=rv-4mike@cox.net Received: from fed1rmimpo01.cox.net ([70.169.32.71]) by fed1rmmtao105.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20080519060807.DMYM23549.fed1rmmtao105.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 02:08:07 -0400 Received: from wills ([68.105.85.56]) by fed1rmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id TJ871Z00V1CvZmk03J89Zr; Mon, 19 May 2008 02:08:09 -0400 Message-ID: <005101c8b976$b55d9df0$38556944@wills> From: "Mike Wills" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Lancair ES - 20B Takeoff Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 23:08:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004E_01C8B93C.08B9A6A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C8B93C.08B9A6A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've recommended both. We will see if he tries to reach you or Al. Mike ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David Leonard=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 10:17 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Lancair ES - 20B Takeoff Mike, you should try to get him to take a look and listen to Al's = installation. That should change his mind. I would also be willing to fly down and give him a flight in my plane. = I took a guy flying last week who was really impressed with how smooth = is it. He should also change over to EFI. That would be a lot easier to do = than swapping out the whole installation. My Flowmaster muffler has 100 hrs and is holding up well. Tracy's old = spintech also held up fine. Dave Leonard On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Mike Wills wrote: In the San Diego area there is Al Gietzen, Dave Leonard, Ryan S. = Ryan (formerly George Graham's E-Racer), and myself. There are also a = couple of guys I know who are considering rotary installs. Maybe not a = hot bed but certainly a decent showing. On the other hand Ryan is planning on replacing the rotary with a = Subaru 6. I've been working on him to at least make an effort to resolve = the issues he has before giving up. The E-Racer install is very crude. = Biggest shortcomings are no muffler and the crude carb install which = gives him erratic mixtures and high fuel consumption. For some reason he has gotten the impression its impossible to = install a muffler that will survive. What is the consensus choice on an = off the shelf muffler these days? Has anyone tried Borla? Mike Wills RV-4 N144MW ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ed Anderson=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 7:52 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Lancair ES - 20B Takeoff Great show, Mark! Liked the way it climbed out. Yes, nothing like = the $$ incentive to get the old dyed in the wool believers to switch to = the rotary - try not to rub it in too much {:>) Just got back from Mid-Atlantic Flyin where my rotary was very, = very lonely {:>). Seems like Texas is the current hot-bed of = "successful" rotary activity. ED ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Steitle=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 6:28 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Lancair ES - 20B Takeoff If anyone is interested, I posted a video of my 3-rotor Lancair = on Youtube. I apologize in advance for the photography (my son-in-law = took the video). ;-) And no, it isn't out of focus, it was 94* the day it was taken = and what you're seeing is the heat coming off the runway. Check it out = at... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUiSSGU7wmMA#GU5U2spHI_4 Mark S. --=20 David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C8B93C.08B9A6A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've recommended both. We will see if = he tries to=20 reach you or Al.
 
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 David=20 Leonard
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 = 10:17 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Lancair ES - 20B=20 Takeoff

Mike, you should try to get him to take a look and = listen to=20 Al's installation.  That should change his mind.

I would = also be=20 willing to fly down and give him a flight in my plane.  I took a = guy=20 flying last week who was really impressed with how smooth is = it.

He=20 should also change over to EFI.  That would be a lot easier to do = than=20 swapping out the whole installation.

My Flowmaster muffler has = 100 hrs=20 and is holding up well.  Tracy's old spintech also held up=20 fine.

Dave Leonard

On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Mike Wills = <rv-4mike@cox.net> wrote:
In the San Diego area there is Al = Gietzen, Dave=20 Leonard, Ryan S. Ryan (formerly George Graham's E-Racer), and = myself. There=20 are also a couple of guys I know who are considering rotary = installs. Maybe=20 not a hot bed but certainly a decent showing.
 
On the other hand Ryan is planning = on replacing=20 the rotary with a Subaru 6. I've been working on him to at least = make an=20 effort to resolve the issues he has before giving up. The E-Racer = install is=20 very crude. Biggest shortcomings are no muffler and the crude carb = install=20 which gives him erratic mixtures and high fuel = consumption.
 
For some reason he has gotten the = impression=20 its impossible to install a muffler that will survive. What is the = consensus=20 choice on an off the shelf muffler these days? Has anyone tried=20 Borla?
 
Mike Wills
 
RV-4 N144MW
-----=20 Original Message -----
From:=20 Ed Anderson
To:=20 Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft
Sent:=20 Sunday, May 18, 2008 7:52 AM
Subject:=20 [FlyRotary] Re: Lancair ES - 20B Takeoff

Great show, Mark! Liked the = way it=20 climbed out.  Yes, nothing like the $$ incentive to get the = old dyed=20 in the wool believers to switch to the rotary - try not to rub it = in too=20 much {:>)
 
 Just got back from = Mid-Atlantic Flyin=20 where my rotary was very, very lonely {:>).  Seems like = Texas is=20 the current hot-bed of "successful" rotary activity.
 
ED
-----=20 Original Message -----
From:=20 Mark Steitle To:=20 Rotary motors in=20 aircraft
Sent:=20 Sunday, May 18, 2008 6:28 AM
Subject:=20 [FlyRotary] Lancair ES - 20B Takeoff

If anyone is interested, I posted a video of my = 3-rotor=20 Lancair on Youtube.  I apologize in advance for the = photography (my=20 son-in-law took the video).  ;-)
And no, it isn't out of = focus,=20 it was 94* the day it was taken and what you're seeing is the = heat=20 coming off the runway.  Check it out at...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUiSSGU7wmMA#GU5U2spHI_4<= /A>

Mark=20 = S.


--
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 = N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.nethttp://RotaryRoster.net=20 ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C8B93C.08B9A6A0--