Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.100] (HELO ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP id 2710871 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 10:37:56 -0500 Received: from o7y6b5 (clt78-020.carolina.rr.com [24.93.78.20]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id hA5FboQU016719 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:37:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000401c3a3b2$3cde1780$1702a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Cooling Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:34:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine From: "Joseph Berki" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:30 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Cooling > Hi everyone, > I decided I did not like the cooling system mounting in the Limo EZ. The > scoop is too big and the resulting lower cowl is draggy. Because this is a > SNIP , evaporator cores like the 81 Caprice vintage (342 cu inches) would > fit. I think that this system would work but do not have any experience > with evaporator cores in pushers. Another issue is getting sufficient > clear area behind the rad. Here is where a dry sump or short oil pan would > really help. Any thoughts on this? Thanks for any help. > > Joe Berki > Limo EZ > Joe, The only thing that I might add to aid in your decision it that evaporator cores work quite well in tractor applications. Of the six flying rotary aircraft (all RV types) at the rotary roundup at Shady Bend, five of them employed evaporator cores. From my limited experience, it appears that where there is adquate dynamic pressure (such as in flight) the cores work quite well. If fact, I have no problem on the ground while at taxi power levels or less. But, if there is any area where they may not provide adequate cooling for a pusher, I would think it would be on the ground where the dynamic pressure is,of course, much less. I have a fairly large bottom cowl opening (28x4 1/2) as well as cowl louvers, so that may help my situation to stay cool. My back of the envelope calcuations indicates that with two evaporator cores and a pre 93 oil cooler ,with the engine idling at 2000 rpm, you would need the equivalent of a 15 mph wind through the cores to maintain adequate cooling. Admittedly this is a rough calculation. With the tractor installation having that big fan up in front of the cores turning at idle rpm appears to provide adequate airflow for cooling on the ground under most OAT conditions. Of course, with the pusher you have a different situation, would your exhaust augmentation provide adequate cooling air? Guess, someone will have to try it to find out. Best Regards Ed Anderson RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com ----- Original Message -----