X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au ([211.29.132.182] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.0) with ESMTPS id 2731534 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:11:19 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=211.29.132.182; envelope-from=lendich@optusnet.com.au Received: from george (d58-105-126-144.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au [58.105.126.144]) by mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id m1FLAVDT027342 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:10:33 +1100 Message-ID: <000701c87017$34cfc710$907e693a@george> From: "George Lendich" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel Burn Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 07:10:33 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0657-0, 12/12/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean > Greg Ward wrote: >> Thanks for the info Giff. I finally received some email response from >> Mistral, about their manifolding, turbos, etc., and their basic opinion >> is they want you to buy the whole engine, and don't waste their tech >> support's time about components, unless you are ready to buy. Maybe I >> approached them wrong, but what can you do? > > You didn't approach them wrong. > > If you buy the engine (whole package) they will most likely work with you > and provide support. > > They have chosen to make their products available ala carte (intake, PSRU, > etc) since they are based on, and compatible with, the the 2nd gen mazda > engines, but they are not in the business of providing support for this > type of endeavor. This is not their core business. It is literally.. a > COURTESY to the people like us.. who have cobbled together their own 2nd > gen rotary motors. > > Chris and I purchased their intake for the 13B. It arrived fairly promptly > for overseas freight. They did a courtesy follow up email to ensure that > everything arrived alright, and undamaged (there was a bent heat shield, > but its sheet metal and no big deal... and i really think the box was > opened in customs anyways, so its likely not Mistral's fault). > > With the intake, everything fits in only one place, and with a little > patience you will see how to do it. Only "gotcha" is we had to grind a > little steel off the oil filter pedestal to interface completely with the > mistral intake. Its a known issue, and easy to fix. > > If I had $30,000+ laying around, I very well would have bought the whole > shebang - turbo 13B with psru and hydraulic CS prop governor from them. No > hesitation. > > But if you are tire kicking, dont be surprised if you don't get much > response from them. You tell them you have the money ready to go and want > to order, you will be invoiced within 24-48 hours. Money talks, people. > > Dave Dave and Greg, Yep! Have to agree with you both - it's too early for them in the certified development task to be responding to small enquiries, with the limited infrastructure. However I must say that Francois and his chief engineer ( Gordon) have always responded to my e-mails because I have provided information and made suggestions to help with their development. Their probably well past the point of needing my limited support now and indeed, that's the way we want it. We need them to be forging forward with their developments - we should reap the rewards for their work down the track, even if it's only information. George (down under)