X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.40] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c1) with ESMTP id 2575523 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:08:10 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.30.40; envelope-from=gregw@onestopdesign.biz Received: from OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PDUS1Y0080QkzPw0A0EJ00; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 03:07:37 +0000 Received: from gregoryii ([24.6.40.29]) by OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PF7d1Y0040dkeQQ0800000; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 03:07:37 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=qtoWPDGkj3EA:10 a=L1_v7ipANjuEjbGfQFQA:9 a=iuNGRJ6wCZbr1oz66tsA:7 a=HPdrjY2RY1FMwjKqPvbRhH6DsbIA:4 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 a=d46lUuF_AAAA:8 a=Uj15aUdvfPqomDtnrG4A:9 a=t8aANVo3qwekTlCTxLUA:7 a=vVqUWGlZcteIXLMZkbyU3n4E8ycA:4 a=nzsYJDvBqywA:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 Message-ID: <0b5601c83ba4$2eb8afb0$8801a8c0@yosemite.onestopdesign.biz> From: "Greg Ward" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Methods of charge cooling was Water/Meth injection Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:16:11 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0B53_01C83B61.2033A0A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0B53_01C83B61.2033A0A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hear that, they just had not been implementing them at the time in car = applications, and most aftermarket turbo kits for cars came without = them. As tight as the RX-7 compartment was that I had, it might have = been a problem getting one in anyhow... Greg ----- Original Message -----=20 From: wrjjrs@aol.com=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 2:18 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Methods of charge cooling was Water/Meth = injection Greg, Perhaps they weren't making intercoolers that fit your = application. They have been making intercoolers since the 1920's. Super = and turbosupercharged diesel trucks have been using them for ages. Early = supercharged aircraft also used "aftercoolers" which is the same device = with a different name.=20 Water injection IS another perfectly legitimate way to beat = detonation though. The P47 and P51's used BOTH intercoolers and = water/methanol injection for maximum military power. Hard climb in a = dogfight or to run from the battle when needed were both possibilities. = It must have been serious when you had to make more than 1200 HP! Bill Jepson because they weren't making intercoolers at the time -----Original Message----- From: Greg Ward To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:44 pm Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Methods of charge cooling was Water/Meth = injection -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail! ------=_NextPart_000_0B53_01C83B61.2033A0A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I hear that, they just had not been implementing = them at=20 the time in car applications, and most aftermarket turbo kits for cars = came=20 without them.  As tight as the RX-7 compartment was that I had, it = might=20 have been a problem getting one in anyhow...
Greg
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From:=20 wrjjrs@aol.com
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 = 2:18=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Methods of=20 charge cooling was Water/Meth injection

Greg, Perhaps they weren't making = intercoolers that=20 fit your application. They have been making intercoolers since the = 1920's.=20 Super and turbosupercharged diesel trucks have been using them for = ages. Early=20 supercharged aircraft also used "aftercoolers" which is the same = device with a=20 different name.
 Water injection IS another perfectly = legitimate=20 way to beat detonation though. The P47 and P51's used BOTH = intercoolers and=20 water/methanol injection for maximum military power. Hard climb in a = dogfight=20 or to run from the battle when needed were both possibilities. It must = have=20 been serious when you had to make more than 1200 HP!
Bill=20 Jepson

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because=20 they weren't making intercoolers at the=20 time
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-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Greg Ward <gregw@onestopdesign.biz>
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20 <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:44=20 pm
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Methods of charge cooling was = Water/Meth=20 injection

 

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