X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.188] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c1) with ESMTP id 2575274 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:57:27 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.198.188; envelope-from=cozy4pilot@gmail.com Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c27so1804081rvf for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:56:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:reply-to:from:to:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:importance:x-mimeole; bh=O3Lq6b1MK9X48ZsHxmq1Kzr1qybDSxJQ2AHYIx0E1f4=; b=ad47Rp7i5V6W9o5MTxLOunQKJOWpTIbBacGOVy2sZeb8zoN1jv3CMGEjUH93xyYP/roj8A1bg5Dg7s+KUoyf2oTxGGDMD4550Vj7lpXN9K9cCZiE6IQ9k+ijO5gYlte3UXatSKGVjmgFu8r45GpKy9XgS23bFnVgHeYN6DXsi9U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=reply-to:from:to:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:importance:x-mimeole; b=hkAg64IMlr/8pyeLGOHc2F8cLEWBpI1cBGnQ/1Xjwb2FIGG+dSgsVN/gme7WdmmH0SQ2kKOKCviO191Ate71FqD+8zvARsaRiu0spm9bzIapMA+EpYtrEew/eEhen7ZkhYHQh78tnU/VvdkVy5tJb4E0wH8fIzdke69Dur8/gaQ= Received: by 10.141.171.6 with SMTP id y6mr4619054rvo.1197327404273; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:56:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from HomePC ( [71.2.20.232]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 27sm5524896wra.2007.12.10.14.56.40 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:56:41 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: From: "Steve Brooks" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Hard starting - problem solved Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:53:39 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C83B55.98957610" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C83B55.98957610 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill, The spark plug without the conductor would definitely be a strange one. I do sometimes overlook the simple stuff. I always assume that it's got to be something harder than what it usually turns out to be. The good news is, that I know for a fact that a lot of things on the engine are in tip-top shape, after checking a lot of different things trying to find it. A few new electrical connectors. Cleaned the injector connectors, etc, etc. Regards, Steve -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of WRJJRS@aol.com Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 1:53 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Hard starting - problem solved In a message dated 12/8/2007 12:36:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, cozy4pilot@gmail.com writes: While the turbo is at the shop, I'm going to pressurize the cooling system, just to make sure that I don't have any other leaks. That way once the turbo comes back (3-4 weeks) I'll be all set to go. Thanks for all of the suggestions. Steve Brooks Cozy MKIV 13B Turbo Steve, You have shown people on the list TWO of the items that were drummed into all of the Kawasaki technical training students when I was there. (A long time ago, probably before dirt!) 1) Check the simple stuff first! (If the engine won't run check for gas in the fuel tank BEFORE any other check is made!) 2) If it was running well and you changed something and then it doesn't run well find out what you messed up. Not doing these things was grounds for failure. After checking the basics then continue downhill from there in a logical fashion. Some of the problems we gave candidates were diabolical, (clear nail polish on the spark plugs for instance), but instructive. Later these mantras saved me when a spark plug came from NGK that looked perfect, but lacked the copper core conductor. A production line fault. It doesn't happen often but it can happen. Glad that you were able to find both problems on the ground! Bill Jepson _____ Check out AOL Money & Finance's list of the hottest products and top money wasters of 2007. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C83B55.98957610 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Bill,

Th= e spark plug without the conductor would definitely be a strange one.  I do sometimes overlook the = simple stuff.  I always assume = that it’s got to be something harder than what it usually turns out to = be.

Th= e good news is, that I know for a fact that a lot of things on the engine are = in tip-top shape, after checking a lot of different things trying to find it.  A few new electrical = connectors.  Cleaned the injector = connectors, etc, etc.

 

Re= gards,

St= eve

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in = aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of WRJJRS@aol.com
Sent: Monday, December = 10, 2007 1:53 AM
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Hard starting - problem solved

 

In a message dated 12/8/2007 12:36:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, = cozy4pilot@gmail.com writes:

While the turbo is at the shop, I'm going to pressurize the cooling = system,
just to make sure that I don't have any other leaks.  That way once = the
turbo comes back (3-4 weeks) I'll be all set to go.

Thanks for all of the suggestions.

Steve Brooks
Cozy MKIV
13B Turbo

Steve,

 You have shown people on the list TWO of the items that were drummed into = all of the Kawasaki technical training students when I was there. (A long time = ago, probably before dirt!)

1) Check the simple stuff first! (If the engine won't run check for gas in = the fuel tank BEFORE any other check is = made!)

2) If it was running well and you changed something and then it doesn't run = well find out what you messed up.

Not doing these things was grounds for failure. After checking the basics = then continue downhill from there in a logical fashion. Some of the problems = we gave candidates were diabolical, (clear nail polish on the spark plugs for instance), but instructive. Later these mantras saved me when a spark = plug came from NGK that looked perfect, but lacked the copper core conductor. A production line fault. It doesn't happen often but it can happen. Glad = that you were able to find both problems on the = ground!

Bill Jepson



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