Return-Path: <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> Received: from [24.25.9.101] (HELO ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 2645793 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:41:11 -0400 Received: from o7y6b5 (clt78-020.carolina.rr.com [24.93.78.20]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id h9LLf3R9013222 for <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:41:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000a01c3981b$ce8b9920$1702a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> References: <list-2645491@logan.com> Subject: Bill Eslick Radiator coolant delta T Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:39:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C397FA.47260CC0"; type="multipart/alternative" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C397FA.47260CC0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0007_01C397FA.47260CC0" ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C397FA.47260CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Eslick=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 1:18 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Radiator coolant delta T I promised to report my indicated water temps next chance I got. = Here are some samples: OAT(F) Delta T (F) 69 23 66 19 68 10 75 14 =20 65 15 75 7 77 12 All figures are in cruise at 8,000 to 10,000 MSL. Last reading = was in climbout, but not much difference. I really can't explain the = range of readings, but that is what it read! =20 Thanks for the data, Bill I ran it through my model, but did not have your power or fuel = burn or airspeed. But assuming you were doing approx 140 Indictated air = speed at altitude and modest power (5200 rpm) my figures shows a delta T = of 12.27F. If you were running a bit harder the delta T would go up a = bit. If you were moving faster than 140 indicated at 5200 rpm then it = would go down a bit. For climb I assumed 120 Indicated and a minimum of 130HP this = gave me a delta T of 24F for the radiators. Both figures not too far = off from what you are reporting. So the delta T would seem to be dependent on your power setting = and air speed most of all. The more BTUs of heat you reject into the = same amount of mass flow, the greater the delta T. However, the faster = you go the more cooling mass flow you get which appears to help to hold = down the delta T. =20 In any case, appreciate the data Ed Anderson =20 =20 =20 ____________________________________________________ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C397FA.47260CC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1170" = name=3DGENERATOR><!--IncrdiXMLRemarkStart> <IncrdiX-Info> <X-FID>FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000</X-FID> <X-FVER></X-FVER> <X-CNT>;</X-CNT> </IncrdiX-Info> <IncrdiXMLRemarkEnd--> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-POSITION: 0px 0px; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 5px 10px = 10px; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"=20 bgColor=3D#ffffff background=3D"" scroll=3Dyes X-FVER=3D"3.0" = ORGYPOS=3D"0"> <DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><A=20 href=3D"mailto:eanderson@carolina.rr.com"></A></FONT></DIV>----- = Original Message=20 ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dn268bl@charter.net href=3D"mailto:n268bl@charter.net">Bill = Eslick</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Dflyrotary@lancaironline.net=20 href=3D"mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net">Rotary motors in = aircraft</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 21, 2003 = 1:18=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [FlyRotary] Re: = Radiator coolant=20 delta T</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <TABLE id=3DINCREDIMAINTABLE cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D2 = width=3D"100%"=20 border=3D0><TBODY> <TR> <TD id=3DINCREDITEXTREGION=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; CURSOR: auto; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" = width=3D"100%"> <DIV>I promised to report my indicated water temps next chance I = got.=20 Here are some samples:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>OAT(F) Delta T = (F)</DIV> <DIV>69 =20 23</DIV> <DIV>66 =20 19</DIV> <DIV>68 =20 10</DIV> <DIV>75 =20 14 = </DIV> <DIV>65 =20 15</DIV> <DIV>75 =20 7</DIV> <DIV>77 =20 12</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>All figures are in cruise at 8,000 to 10,000 MSL. = Last=20 reading was in climbout, but not much difference. I really = can't=20 explain the range of readings, but that is what it read!</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks for the data, Bill</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> I ran it through my model, but did=20 not have your power or fuel burn or airspeed. But = assuming=20 you were doing approx 140 Indictated air speed at altitude and = modest=20 power (5200 rpm) my figures shows a delta T of 12.27F. If = you were=20 running a bit harder the delta T would go up a bit. If you = were=20 moving faster than 140 indicated at 5200 rpm then it would go = down a=20 bit.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>For climb I assumed 120 Indicated and a = minimum of=20 130HP this gave me a delta T of 24F for the radiators. = Both=20 figures not too far off from what you are = reporting.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>So the delta T would seem to be dependent on = your=20 power setting and air speed most of all. The more BTUs of = heat you=20 reject into the same amount of mass flow, the greater the = delta T.=20 However, the faster you go the more cooling mass flow you get = which=20 appears to help to hold down the delta T. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>In any case, appreciate the = data</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Ed Anderson</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV></TD></TR> <TR> <TD id=3DINCREDIFOOTER width=3D"100%"> <TABLE cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0 width=3D"100%"> <TBODY> <TR> <TD width=3D"100%"></TD> <TD id=3DINCREDISOUND vAlign=3Dbottom align=3Dmiddle></TD> <TD id=3DINCREDIANIM vAlign=3Dbottom=20 = align=3Dmiddle></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><SPAN = id=3DIncrediStamp><SPAN dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, = sans-serif"=20 size=3D2>____________________________________________________<BR><FONT = face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><A=20 = href=3D"http://www.incredimail.com/redir.asp?ad_id=3D309&lang=3D9"><I= MG alt=3D""=20 hspace=3D0 src=3D"cid:000501c3981b$ce1f42c0$1702a8c0@WorkGroup" = align=3Dbaseline=20 border=3D0></A> <I>IncrediMail</I> - <B>Email has finally = evolved</B> -=20 </FONT><A=20 = href=3D"http://www.incredimail.com/redir.asp?ad_id=3D309&lang=3D9"><F= ONT=20 face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><B><U>Click=20 = Here</U></B></FONT></A></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C397FA.47260CC0-- ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C397FA.47260CC0 Content-Type: image/gif; name="IMSTP.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: <000501c3981b$ce1f42c0$1702a8c0@WorkGroup> R0lGODlhFAAPALMIAP9gAM9gAM8vAM9gL/+QL5AvAGAvAP9gL////wAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAACH/C05FVFNDQVBFMi4wAwEAAAAh+QQJFAAIACwAAAAAFAAPAAAEVRDJSaudJuudrxlEKI6B URlCUYyjKpgYAKSgOBSCDEuGDKgrAtC3Q/R+hkPJEDgYCjpKr5A8WK9OaPFZwHoPqm3366VKyeRt E30tVVRscMHDqV/u+AgAIfkEBWQACAAsAAAAABQADwAABBIQyUmrvTjrzbv/YCiOZGmeaAQAIfkE CRQACAAsAgABABAADQAABEoQIUOrpXIOwrsPxiQUheeRAgUA49YNhbCqK1kS9grQhXGAhsDBUJgZ AL2Dcqkk7ogFpvRAokSn0p4PO6UIuUsQggSmFjKXdAgRAQAh+QQFCgAIACwAAAAAFAAPAAAEEhDJ Sau9OOvNu/9gKI5kaZ5oBAAh+QQJFAAIACwCAAEAEAANAAAEShAhQ6ulcg7Cuw/GJBSF55ECBQDj 1g2FsKorWRL2CtCFcYCGwMFQmBkAvYNyqSTuiAWm9ECiRKfSng87pQi5SxCCBKYWMpd0CBEBACH5 BAVkAAgALAAAAAAUAA8AAAQSEMlJq7046827/2AojmRpnmgEADs= ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C397FA.47260CC0--