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From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Subject: Bill Eslick  Radiator coolant delta T
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:39:28 -0400
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----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Bill Eslick=20
  To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20
  Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 1:18 PM
  Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Radiator coolant delta T


        I promised to report my indicated water temps next chance I got. =
Here are some samples:

        OAT(F)        Delta T (F)
        69                    23
        66                    19
        68                    10
        75                    14   =20
        65                    15
        75                    7
        77                    12

        All figures are in cruise at 8,000 to 10,000 MSL.  Last reading =
was in climbout, but not much difference.  I really can't explain the =
range of readings, but that is what it read!
        =20

        Thanks for the data, Bill

          I ran it through my model, but did not have your power or fuel =
burn or airspeed.  But assuming you were doing approx 140 Indictated air =
speed at altitude and modest power (5200 rpm) my figures shows a delta T =
of 12.27F.  If you were running a bit harder the delta T would go up a =
bit.  If you were moving faster than 140 indicated at 5200 rpm then it =
would go down a bit.

        For climb I assumed 120 Indicated and a minimum of 130HP this =
gave me a delta T of 24F for the radiators.  Both figures not too far =
off from what you are reporting.

        So the delta T would seem to be dependent on your power setting =
and air speed most of all.  The more BTUs of heat you reject into the =
same amount of mass flow, the greater the delta T. However, the faster =
you go the more cooling mass flow you get which appears to help to hold =
down the delta T. =20

        In any case, appreciate the data

        Ed Anderson
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 21, 2003 =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [FlyRotary] Re: =
Radiator coolant=20
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        <DIV>I promised to report my indicated water temps next chance I =
got.=20
        Here are some samples:</DIV>
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        <DIV>OAT(F)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Delta T =
(F)</DIV>
        <DIV>69&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 23</DIV>
        <DIV>66&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 19</DIV>
        <DIV>68&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 10</DIV>
        <DIV>75&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 14&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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        <DIV>65&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 15</DIV>
        <DIV>75&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 7</DIV>
        <DIV>77&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 12</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>All figures are in cruise at 8,000 to 10,000 MSL.&nbsp; =
Last=20
        reading was in climbout, but not much difference.&nbsp; I really =
can't=20
        explain the range of readings, but that is what it read!</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks for the data, Bill</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp; I ran it through my model, but did=20
        not&nbsp;have your power or fuel burn or airspeed.&nbsp; But =
assuming=20
        you were doing approx 140 Indictated air speed at altitude and =
modest=20
        power (5200 rpm) my figures shows a delta T of 12.27F.&nbsp; If =
you were=20
        running a bit harder the delta T would go up a bit.&nbsp; If you =
were=20
        moving faster than 140 indicated at 5200 rpm then it would go =
down a=20
        bit.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2>For climb I assumed 120 Indicated and a =
minimum of=20
        130HP this gave me a delta T of 24F for the radiators.&nbsp; =
Both=20
        figures not too far off from what you are =
reporting.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2>So the delta T would seem to be dependent on =
your=20
        power setting and air speed most of all.&nbsp; The more BTUs of =
heat you=20
        reject into the same amount of&nbsp;mass flow, the greater the =
delta T.=20
        However, the faster you go the more cooling mass flow you get =
which=20
        appears to help to hold down the delta T.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2>In any case, appreciate the =
data</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Ed Anderson</FONT></DIV>
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