X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.199.123] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c1) with SMTP id 2503769 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 02:43:13 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.142.199.123; envelope-from=ron2369@sbcglobal.net Received: (qmail 87924 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Nov 2007 07:42:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=i3LerPt88gHfI4PSI0WCCkviZqLKMyr0BfYM4GSIs1wnpNl5at8m49kefi10xPgh2JPPn7O5hvW5qPm2m8wQmlpLZaosqHMas9xrNQPKAD5ALEv4XB+Uv96VuH9VOrfRTagtayDJmdrXofkV9ONRTTZF2s5AVTVq/J2iX150/WE=; X-YMail-OSG: HN252YgVM1mlp6UsmqqNjAwJa4Iw20NAAzHXNORNd7U8vdRzqOsUfs3zHYIB8fCr0izfhpq88Q-- Received: from [71.142.232.57] by web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 23:42:34 PST Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 23:42:34 -0800 (PST) From: Ron Springer Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] what are they To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <333634.87215.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I am just a radiator novice, but all radiators that I have any experience with have had straight passages from front to back between fins. When that is the case, most books and reports use flat plate drag equations to determine the skin friction and heat transfer as a first cut. Now if a flat plate radiator is a radiator where flat plate drag equations can be used, then I guess I haven't seen a radiator that isn't one. Actually, I take that back. The A/C condenser on my car has taken so many rock hits that the leading edge of many of the fins are badly bent. I guess some new equations will be needed! Ron --- Ed Klepeis wrote: > Dear Tracy > I'm with you what are these special flat > plate rads. I have built many systems but haven't > come across these flat plate rads. I will stand > corrected if someone comes up with something. I > think what everyone is talking about is a flat plate > cooler that is put in the bottom tank on rads to > cool trans fluid. I think fluidyne is using them as > oil to water oil coolers. I looked into that but > didn't like the sealing system they used around the > oil inlet/outlet good enough for cars but not safe > for aircraft. If anyone has anything to add to this > I would be happy to hear about it. > > > Regards > > > Ed Klepeis