X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.228] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c1) with ESMTP id 2502534 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:34:04 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.249.82.228; envelope-from=cozy4pilot@gmail.com Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so1493511wxd for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:33:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:reply-to:from:to:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:importance:x-mimeole; bh=l1B6KgHojJmptg0D/DZ2XAvn70/G8EAGXKMLoB/Lr4A=; b=sUzhWH0XVrCwBuZSkSUcDNHHr/UNT9EWv6KnVUCvG4E5HQF8mv/IcjbO7kxxsVaLYZVcQKuTEevjVyQBemvXqRqmQaQt7bxfbMEDGyRUxj0BNeWsKeurCo7u0bzQRYNHkOCUhG3km7HOx8O5iurmjI/aIcm/7h2a844S8E2N3RY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:reply-to:from:to:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:importance:x-mimeole; b=DpszbGntiGrPQKaIxabojsZBpmJDoIsULpPUPQcYuq0FB0CdqtrzsqlxPkz6LQEUqu35/0g+XAWdqLezS0pZbW0te6wn6INBU1Fc7Sc0aF9sziCcXTiJBENkPPRRLAtFe7zDjXAwbFGZ75fhacFklEXQYSkIPlMnia0bBNoTNGU= Received: by 10.70.39.14 with SMTP id m14mr6248805wxm.1195864408747; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:33:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from HomePC ( [71.2.20.232]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h16sm4139546wxd.2007.11.23.16.33.26 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:33:27 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: From: "Steve Brooks" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Hard Starting Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:31:18 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 Buly, Sounds like you and Tracy are on the same page. Sounds like a likely cause. I'll check them out, and maybe just replace them. They aren't very long tubes. Probably less than three feet each. Regards, Steve Brooks -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Bulent Aliev Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 6:54 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Hard Starting Steve, I had a period like that with my engine. Discovered that the vacuum hose from the manifold pressure to the EC was disconnected at the EC and it was hard to see. See if you can find a vacuum tester and make sure you don't have any leaks. Buly On Nov 23, 2007, at 8:39 AM, Steve Brooks wrote: > I have an issue all of the sudden with my 13B Turbo not wanting to > start. > It will fire occasionally, but just won't start running. > If I am persistent enough (and have enough battery), It will > finally start, > but does not run well. Seems to have a miss in it. It runs better > if I turn > the mixture to lean, in fact, I can turn the mixture all the way > counter > clock wise. I think that it used to die when I would do that. When I > switch to controller B, it runs better for a few seconds, and then > goes back > to missing. It doesn't start any easier on controller B either. > > I haven't done a lot of troubleshooting on it yet, but wondered if > anyone > has had a similar issue. I did replace the spark plugs, but that > didn't seem > to help any. I still have the stock turbo on it, so, maybe the > turbo is > starting to go. It also started this problem, after I fixed a > problem with > the starter. My Cessna ignition switch got some water in it and it > got to > where it wouldn't engage the starter. I took it apart, and cleaned > all of > the contacts to fix it. I have that switch also wired to do the > coil test > when you select mag1 or mag2 on the switch. The coil test only > works on > controller B though, so I don't think that would affect controller A. > > I guess that maybe my next step is to verify that I'm getting spark > on all > plugs, and then maybe try removing the plumbing to the throttle > body, and > try starting it then. That should verify if my turbo is failing, and > restricting air flow. > > Steve Brooks > Cozy MKIV 13B Turbo > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/ > flyrotary/List.html -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html