X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from web81313.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.199.39] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c2) with SMTP id 2470361 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:54:44 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.142.199.39; envelope-from=ron2369@sbcglobal.net Received: (qmail 54371 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Nov 2007 19:54:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=z2rK40aJh5+85Imn9+qsjwLahD7KXkQ4vt1NN7DeyRBAiKfdEJ2kqcNlgDJ6zvgT6O5OX7YMjJbIScGVe1eIIDRYJtiSs3c/aWnvIglJIWy5diiWojc2Jm8wYT5PqK3IFkhGDljGQcdl9U9FNPRFkwC7TfOALVv58AeH+r/tTpw=; X-YMail-OSG: zbSQYNgVM1mbrC5EEC5IdrcHSNIF475OknI1WFKTsV_763wI.iA6mNY1q56xHXpk6UjyDhkUNA-- Received: from [192.146.217.215] by web81313.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:54:08 PST Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:54:08 -0800 (PST) From: Ron Springer Subject: Thick vs Thin was : Diffuser Configuration Comparison To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <284267.53651.qm@web81313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Assume you have two radiators: 1) Radiator 1 is twice the frontal area of Radiator 2 2) Same wetted fin area and fin spacing, so Radiator 2 is twice as thick as Radiator 1. 3) Same air inlet with same mass flow rate 4) Different diffusers, but both have no flow separation and perfectly uniform flow arrives at the radiator face. 5) Both radiators have the same average skin friction coefficient and average heat transfer coefficient in the boundary layers that develop across the fins (this is a small stretch and could be refined, but it is not going to change the trends in this example). Then, because heat transfer and drag scale with velocity squared, and velocity is twice as high for the thick radiator, and the thick radiator would have four times the heat transfer, but also four times the drag. There is always a tradeoff between heat transfer and drag. That is my take on the situation. Ron