Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #40310
From: Al Gietzen <ALVentures@cox.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Diffuser Configuration Comparison
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:37:05 -0800
To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Diffuser Configuration Comparison

 

I especially liked the comment in the report where it says that the

higher the pressure drop across the core, the higher the diffuser

efficiency.   I interpret this as 'thicker core is better than

thinner!'   Of course there is a point of diminishing returns where

flow is simply too low as Ed has pointed out but in an application

where diffuser efficiency is such an important factor, this pushes

that point in the direction of 'thick'.

 

Tracy (back from the dragon and sorry to bring up the thick vs thin

thing again :>)

 

Again I feel compelled to caution against over-simplification and generalities (I’m not just trying to be a contrarian; really!).  In a myriad of factors, drawing that conclusion based on one configuration and one parameter can certainly be misleading. What is your criteria?  I can say that generally increased pressure drop equates to increased drag. Also “thickness” and “pressure drop” are not equatable (is that a word?).  The very thick P-51 rad with large hexagonal passages is in no way comparable to the same thickness of modern radiators with ½” between tubes and 16 fins/in.

 

The most detailed, sophisticated analysis of radiators for our application that I have seem was done by Fred Moreno back in ’99; but unfortunately it also was done for a specific case of 220 KTAS and 10 fins/in. What it suggests is there is an optimum thickness (minimum drag), and that is roughly 3”.  That’s for 10 fins/in.; I concluded that my 16 fins/in rad should be thinner, and went with 2.5” thckness.  It works exceptionally well.  The 2.5” to 3” thickness seems common for rads made by Ron Davis and Griffin for racing applications.  That seems consistent.

 

But likely, obtaining minimum drag is beyond the sophistication that most of us can achieve in our applications. If we can get it to cool adequately we’ve done a good job; and that is probably mostly a function of scoops, diffuser and exit configurations.

 

FWIW,

 

Al G

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