Return-Path: Received: from [65.23.108.33] (HELO mail.tsisp.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP-TLS id 2644943 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:37:46 -0400 Received: from stevehome ([]) by mail.tsisp.com (Technical Support Inc.) with ASMTP id BGA74184 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:37:46 -0400 From: "Steve Brooks" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Sigh! Another engine out Glide! Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:44:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 11.0.4920 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Thread-Index: AcOXfXLYSz/8DKucTNamwCzud6TWmgASqoKg In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ed, A very well written account. I'm sure that you probably used up a few = weeks supply of adrenalin when that happened. By the way, I fired up my engine last weekend. I was thrilled that it started after only 3-4 seconds of cranking. I'm a long ways from flying yet, but at least I'm a step closer. Thanks = for all of your help. Steve Brooks Cozy MKIV CH 23&24=20 13BT rotary=20 -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed Anderson Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 10:46 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft I truly appreciate all the supporting e mails consoling me about no = longer being on the rotaryeng list, don't know what I would have done without = it {:>). Actually, I was so concerned I went flying today, beautiful day = with clear skies and moderate temperatures. Also wanted to check out that = the gearbox Tracy had shipped back was properly installed with no oil leaks, etc., before I flew down to Shady Bend this coming weekend. This was the first flight since Tracy fixed the gear box that my flaking nickel plating almost did in. I had been thinking had I gotten airborne = and had that gearbox seize up - it would not have been nice. So as you = might imagine I was keenly attuned to anything unusual as I took off on this = first flight after reinstalling the gearbox. Also wanted to check that my 33% decrease in radiator duct inlet area was still cooling adequately. After flying approx 20 minutes I was turning over a small airport to = head back home and check under the cowl to make certain no oil leaks, when suddenly there was a terrific racket and a vibration through the = airframe. I hastily scanned all my engine instruments - fuel pressure OK, Water = oil temps OK, oil pressure OK, - wait, was it fluctuating a bit?. The = engine was still turning, but for how long? Was there more nickel plating in some place I had failed to notice, was = the gear box seizing, was the engine fixing to seize. Those and more = thoughts took about 9/10ths of a second to race through my head (well, maybe a = bit longer). My incisive conclusion was that "something" was wrong with the engine = and/or gearbox. Since the only thing I had recently messed with was the = gearbox and the oil supply they were the prime suspects - I had images of the = engine seizing (yeah I know the oil pressure said OK, but it appeared to be fluctuating a bit - you have to be there) and possibly throwing a prop. Also if an oil problem, I really didn't want to fry the bearings of the engine. Releasing my grip on the seat cushion, I leaned over and flicked off the fuel injectors. Well that did stop the noise and vibration, as well as = the prop which slowed down and stopped - no surprise there! I've see that before! Altitude was 4000 MSL. Only the "whoosh" of air over the = canopy and the zzzzzz of the fuel pump which I decided to leave on should I = decide to relight the fire. So I raised the nose for best glide speed and = started down for the airport. Hey, this is the second time and this time I even managed to get off a few radio calls to the airport Unicom. Just = advised them of some engine difficulties and that I would be ahem....making a "precautionary" landing on 17 in a few minutes {:>). Once again, I confirmed that best glide was 87 MPH which gave me 650-750 = fpm rate of descent in my RV-6A. Came over the down wind end (at least that = was different than the first time), checked my altimeter and confirmed what = my eyeball said. Dumped full flaps as I do come in a bit on the high side normally (and especially when the fan is stopped), did some slipping and = "S" turns to bleed off altitude and made a nice landing and rolled off the runway at the first taxi way. A group of the local airport crowd came = up and pulled me back to the FBO area. Well, to make a long story shorter, nothing wrong with the engine or = gear box. My *&#^% pilot side muffler pipe (I have one on each side = underneath) had backed out of its header tube and the terrific noise I heard was = simply 120 DB exhaust right under my feet. Can actually feel the exhaust = impulse on the floor board which accounted for the vibration I had felt. But, I was so attuned to a gearbox/engine scenario that it never = occurred to me that it was simple the exhaust - so again a bit embarrassing, but = not as much as the failure to switch fuel tanks that first time. Besides, I don't think I really wanted that hot exhaust blowing straight out of the header back on that thin aluminum bottom. So, found out that a pin that I use to keep the two tubes together had apparently failed and the clamp itself couldn't hold the tubes together. = The FBO was serving free hamburgers, so enjoy meeting another group of = hangar bums and had a great lunch. Fixed the exhaust and had an uneventful = flight home. So my "glider" time is now up to about 15 minutes and it was a bit less thrilling (if you believe that {:>)) than the first time over broken overcast. Like I say, if its going to happen - it WILL happen to me - well, I = admit - I did intentionally shut off the engine this time to preclude damage and = to keep it ready should I find my gliding eyeball was inaccurate and needed = a power boost toward the end of the glide. Just another day of adventure in rotary land with Ed Anderson. Ed Anderson RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.525 / Virus Database: 322 - Release Date: 10/9/2003 =20