X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.232] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.12) with ESMTP id 2360317 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 30 Sep 2007 06:28:46 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.249.82.232; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so2595384wxd for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2007 03:28:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=YuNeAYtxcgkUaGhtiiC7o0j/LXESBGcWtbvk1y2Ojfc=; b=Vp7UQY8K74pFVWuvKgJsOW2CsrfWxsUf+jxg6J7TukV8Y3kzixaNOh3V5S601tLY7M2C35gYvuozsu0Z5XmPgwuMU0aR6u6D58xQMCjL9n3iGlQy8FwGyUQbD5rS/4eemG5AeEJtSCsr6/m5Xu5fL8KVV8vt9fjFacB0CT0CInY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=q/xqGbE0yEXySsSTnMcIWqoCKhT3Mc4/EWeHKWXSRQsqkU84BgOMDuFqr5cL6pftznzAOWaQ2LuRQtbLr3Cp5Pddobc4IRZUar7JCzsMyZ82RIPc2/ILKbB5jv1QhvdtYNC/cHi5i0GIa3SKGjgr1boGAK47HdNumf0Ok1CnQ1w= Received: by 10.90.49.1 with SMTP id w1mr2219632agw.1191148087784; Sun, 30 Sep 2007 03:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.35.16 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Sep 2007 03:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5cf132c0709300328t6a2b94ex34824ae2a72495bb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 05:28:07 -0500 From: "Mark Steitle" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Another cooling question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6640_7760542.1191148087662" ------=_Part_6640_7760542.1191148087662 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ED wrote: Mark, if you really had excess air flowing through your radiators the coolant would drop more than 4 Deg F. In fact, the more air flow the more coolant Delta T you would drop through the radiator. That's exactly what I HAD thought, until I was told that the air could pass through too fast and not pick up as much heat. This didn't make sense to me. Maybe I wasn't listening closely and missed the point altogether (wouldn't be the first time). What I DO know is that the air is flowing faster through the water radiator than the oil radiator. (I'm not sure I have the ASI's hooked up correctly, but they're both hooked up the same). I have a pitot behind each radiator hooked up to two separate ASI's. In slow cruise, say 125-130 kts, the water radiator ASI will read about 110knts and the oil ASI will read about 90 kts. The way it was behaving before I opened up the exit, it appeared that the air from the water radiator was trying to exit backwards through the oil inlet. I say this because of how high the oil temps were reading. I enlarged the cowl exit, and both the water and oil temps dropped significantly. The ASI's are referencing the static port for these readings; should they be referencing cowl or cabin pressure instead? Airspeeds readings seem awfully high to me. Mark (Going to the airport today to recalibrate temp sensors) ------=_Part_6640_7760542.1191148087662 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
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 Mark, if you really had excess air flowing through your radiators the coolant would drop more than 4 Deg F.  In fact, the more air flow the more coolant Delta T you would drop through the radiator. 
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That's exactly what I HAD thought, until I was told that the air could pass through too fast and not pick up as much heat.  This didn't make sense to me.  Maybe I wasn't listening closely and missed the point altogether (wouldn't be the first time). 
 
What I DO know is that the air is flowing faster through the water radiator than the oil radiator.  (I'm not sure I have the ASI's hooked up correctly, but they're both hooked up the same).  I have a pitot behind each radiator hooked up to two separate ASI's.  In slow cruise, say 125-130 kts, the water radiator ASI will read about 110knts and the oil ASI will read about 90 kts.  The way it was behaving before I opened up the exit, it appeared that the air from the water radiator was trying to exit backwards through the oil inlet.  I say this because of how high the oil temps were reading.  I enlarged the cowl exit, and both the water and oil temps dropped significantly. 
 
The ASI's are referencing the static port for these readings; should they be referencing cowl or cabin pressure instead?  Airspeeds readings seem awfully high to me. 
 
Mark
(Going to the airport today to recalibrate temp sensors)
 
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