Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #39493
From: Al Gietzen <ALVentures@cox.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: One for the guys that don't give up
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 11:40:09 -0800
To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

The reason Tracy gave for the ECU not working was because of that set-up, as his Vacuum pick -up is at the Plenum - something to do with fluctuations within the tube, whereby the plenum was static or less successful to wild fluctuations.

George ( down under)

 

I have accumulator and orifice which smooths the MAP nicely.

 

Dave said:  Besides a slight difference in the mixture necessary between the 2 computers, both locations seem to work well.

 

Dave:  Mine works well also - except for the anomaly noted.  I don’t know if you mean that yours specifically doesn’t exhibit that phenomenon?

 

Al, was 35° BTDC Tracys suggested timing?

 

The 35o BTDC is the static setting specified in Tracy’s manual; line up the 2-point trigger wheel with the reluctors at that point.

 

Quite frankly, I haven't tried the coil disable feature at high rpm yet.  So, I don't have an answer to your question.  Heck, I can't even get my auto-tune to work. 

 

Mark; well, whenever you get that far, give it a shot and see what you get. Good luck with the auto-tune.

 

  Does anyone else experience these symptoms?   That’s the question.

 

Thanks, guys,

 

Al

 

 

 

 

 

OK; Mark; (or anybody).  Since we both have 20Bs, and both use the EC2 controller, maybe you have a clue for this one. I’ve brought this up here before, but no solution.

I have all the latest updates on the EC2, and I have double checked the static timing set at 35o BTDC.  From that point on the EC2 is handling the timing curve with rpm and MAP.

At lower power levels, disabling the leading ignition clearly has a larger effect than disabling the trailing – as one would expect.  At somewhere around 18” MAP, (don’t know right now what rpm that is, maybe close to 4000) the effect is about equal when disabling either set.  At higher power levels, there is a larger effect of disabling the trailing than the leading.  That troubles me.  I think the leading should always have a greater effect.  It makes me wonder about the timing; or if something else is wrong.

I have in the past tried varying the timing 2 or 3 steps while at power, but couldn’t discern a change in rpm greater than the normal variation in the readout.  Tracy sent me the XL spreadsheet with the timing curve data, but I haven’t yet figured a safe way of checking it with that prop spinning close by.

Does your installation exhibit the same behavior?  Is there some explanation for this?  What test should I perform?

One thing that occurs to me is that Tracy measures MAP out before the runners.  I measure MAP at the manifold, downstream from intake plenum and three short runners and the 3-barrel TWM throttle body.  At WOT my MAP is not atmospheric pressure – it is maybe 2-3” HG less.  I can’t quite see how that is an issue; but maybe someone else with a TWM TB setup with the MAP port downstream would know.

 

Other than that I’m very pleased with the new mixture correction table setup for the 20B.  Much less tuning and seamless transistion between tables and through the stage point.  Probably the pulse clamping and injector isolation diodes are part of that.


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