Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #38658
From: Al Gietzen <ALVentures@cox.net>
Subject: Boiling point - -was ' Flying'
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:23:23 -0800
To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Perhaps of more interest to us is that with 33% solution of EG in water; and
a 23# pressure cap, the boiling point is about 275 F.
Al

Ron Springer wrote:

>60% antifreeze and 40% water is the lowest according
>to this website which includes a chart:
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>http://www.gi.alaska.edu/ScienceForum/ASF6/680.html
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>Ron Springer
>Folsom, CA
>
>--- David Staten <Dastaten@earthlink.net> wrote:
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>>Steve Brooks wrote:
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>>>I've been working so many hours lately that I
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>>really have not had much time
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>>>for flying.  It had been a month since I had flown
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>>my turbo rotary powered
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>>>Cozy IV, though I had run it on two occasions
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>>prior.
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>>>On the 4th of July, I drained the anti-freeze, and
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>>replaced it with
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>>>distilled water.  Well, maybe 5% antifreeze is
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>>left, but not more than that.
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>>>I took of this morning, with the OAT at 70 degrees.
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>> I took off at my usual
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>>>5 lbs of boost on the turbo, and rotated at 80
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>>knots about 1500 feet later.
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>>>While the flight was outstanding, with smooth air
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>>an nearly unlimited
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>>>visibility, I did not see any marked improvement in
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>>the straight water, over
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>>>the 50/50 water / antifreeze mixture.
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>>The advantage out of a 50/50 mix is that it will
>>boil at a higher temp
>>and freeze at a lower temp than any other ratio of
>>water/antifreeze. Ask
>>any high school chemistry teacher.  Improved cooling
>>is not typically
>>one of the benefits seen, if all other variables are
>>kept equal.
>>
>>Glad you had an uneventful flight.
>>
>>Dave
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