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Ed,
As you correctly observed, the engine is
mounted further from the firewall than normal. The answer is a lesson what happens when
one deviates from the plans. Since
I have a water-cooled engine, I use the hot water from the engine for cabin
heat through a standard auto heater. The unit (with a fan) is just aft of the
firewall, centered in front of the rudder pedals. This placement required the rudder pedals
to be moved a little further aft, which in turn, required the seats to be a
little further aft. This is all OK,
because with the T-18 canopy, the instrument panel can be moved back about 2 inches, which gives more room for radios and
instruments. However, the baggage area
behind the seats becomes very small (and my wife was complaining that there was
not enough room for baggage to start with). My solution was to open up the baggage
compartment to the next bulkhead, which gives a lot of room, but shifts the CG
further aft. To compensate for all
of this, the engine must be moved forward.
I mounted the engine on the airframe with
a temporary engine mount, with all known accessories and weights installed, and
weighed the plane. Then, I found
the CG of the engine FWF and weighed it separately. I was able to calculate where the engine
should be placed to get the correct CG and establish the limits for fuel, baggage,
and passengers. By calculation, the
engine needed to be where it now is in order to balance the other things that
moved the CG aft. Based on
the amount of weight currently on the tail wheel, it appears to be just about
right, but I have to do another weight and balance when everything is finished
to be absolutely sure.
This is what happens when you deviate from
the plans. But, I guess using a
non-certified rotary engine is a pretty big deviation in and of itself. One good deviation deserves another, I
always say.
Bob
From: Rotary motors in aircraft
[mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
Behalf Of Ed Anderson
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:28
AM
To: Rotary
motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Mustang II
CG? Was [FlyRotary] Re: Logbook Question
Good to hear from you. Nice looking installation, neat
turbo set up. Should make the Mustang exceed Ve going straight up {:>)
But, I do have a question - the engine + Turbo seems
to be pretty far out from the firewall, what does that do to your CG?
The reason I ask is I have a 13B in my RV-6A and the
water pump pulley is approx 8" from the firewall and that put me a tiny
bit nose-heavy. Well, at least until I took out 30 lbs of battery and
painted the aircraft. I did build a bit stout which of course added to
the weight FWF.
But, must admit, I'm not familiar with the engine
installation in a Mustang II. So how far out is the water pump
pulley from your firewall? and is that approx where a 360 lycoming would sit?
in a Mustang?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 16,
2007 12:58 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re:
Logbook Question
Yes, it has an aftermarket Turbonetics
60-1 turbo with external wastegate and 1.15 A/R. I can vary the boost by 10 psi from the
cockpit with a manual control regulator.
It remains to be seen how well it all works.
Bob
From: Rotary motors in aircraft
[mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
Behalf Of Mark Steitle
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 11:25
AM
To: Rotary
motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Logbook
Question
Look'n good Bob. Best I can tell you've got a turbo 13B under the
cowl. Is that correct? Looks like we should have quite a showing at
the next Rotary Roundup and/or Sun-n-Fun.
BTW, one nice thing that Ron Gowan did was to write a letter to the FAA
stating that I built the a/c and recommended that I be granted a repairman's
certificate. Not sure if it is necessary, but it sure won't hurt either.
On 7/16/07, Rogers,
Bob J. <BRogers@fdic.gov>
wrote:
Thanks Mark,
Yes, I live in Plano, TX and have a hangar at the McKinney municipal airport. You can see
and read about my project at http://www.eaa1246.org/projectsnplanesdisplay.asp?id=10
I am currently working on the engine baffling.
Everything else is pretty much done. But as you know, it is all the
remaining little details that take forever.
Bob
From: Rotary
motors in aircraft [mailto: flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
On Behalf Of Mark Steitle
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 6:24
PM
To: Rotary
motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Logbook
Question
His phone
number is 817/975-2138. Email is rongowan@yahoo.com. I take it you live in the Dallas/Ft. Worth
area?
On
7/12/07, Rogers, Bob J. < BRogers@fdic.gov> wrote:
Mark,
I would like to use Ron Gowan as my DAR when the time comes
to have my rotary powered Mustang II inspected (within the next year, I hope).
Do you have a phone number for Ron that I could call to contact him?
Thanks,
Bob Rogers
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Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 8:08 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Logbook Question
The only
thing he asked me to do was pay for his gas to fly down. He indicated
that $10 would suffice, but we both know that that wouldn't hardly get him to
the runup area. Due to all the heavy rains and overcast skies, we had
trouble getting things coordinated. He flies for Delta out of Atlanta from Thursday
through Sunday. He normally flies back from Atlanta on Sunday or Monday. Instead,
he flew into Austin, rented a car and drove
down to Lockhart, then drove north to Dallas
afterwards. I gave him $150 to cover the car rental and gas.
I had planned on taking him to have BBQ, but he was in a hurry to
head home. He said that he does it as a service to the EAA community. It
sure beats the local DAR's prices.
On
7/9/07, Christopher Barber <
CBarber@texasattorney.net > wrote:
Thanks
for the update, success and the report on Ron Gowen. He is who I plan to
call first as I have not only met him, he let me fly from the back seat of one
of his Vari-EZ's when I was up in Denton visiting Alex a few years ago. I
think he either has or had a rotory powered EZ (even though the one I flew in
had a Lyc). The day I was there, he had just recieved a new Marconni
PSRU. He was very pleased with it.
If
you don't mind, would you please share the details of his cost and expectations
as to come for a visit?
Congrats
on turning your piles of fiberglass, metal and foam into a real honest to
goodness flying machine.
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Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 3:59 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Logbook Question
Thanks
for the words of encouragement. The rains have stopped
here in central Texas,
the sun is once again shining, and the doves returned to the ark
with twigs in their mouths. The DAR came out to the airport today in his
kayak and did the final inspection on my Lancair
ES/20B project. And he actually signed it off!!! So, it is
officially an "airplane" and no longer a "project".
How about that? Its been a long haul, but now the fun begins... as
soon as I get some recurrency training to bring me up to speed. He
said I did a good job with much attention to detail, then he took my
money and left. ;-) I'll should get the paperwork
in the mail in a few days. Soon I'll be starting the 40-hour
testing phase. I had asked for a 200 mile radius, but that would have put
me over the Houston
area, so he cut it down to 100 miles. He said that the FAA frowns on more
than that, especially with auto conversions. So, I'lll have to make
do with a 100 mile radius.
If anyone
wants/needs a DAR with rotary experience, and you're in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area, I would highly
recommend this inspector. His name is Ron Gowan. He has 500 hrs PIC
flying a rotary. He also has composites experience. I felt
that he would be a good choice even if he didn't have extensive composites
experience.
He said
the two biggest areas to pay very close attention is the psru and the cooling
system. He said that the rotary engine is rock solid. (That really
impressed the old timers at the airport.)
So, all
you guys working away month after month, keep the faith, there is a glorious
day coming. ;-)
On
7/7/07, Kelly Troyer < keltro@att.net> wrote:
Pulling for you !! You will certainly have one going and
beautiful
aircraft........Will absolutely be a plus for the Rotary
movement
in general and a worthy addition to the somewhat
rare 20B
engine group.......
--
Kelly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold
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Original message from "Mark Steitle" < msteitle@gmail.com>:
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> Mark Steitle wrote:
>
>> Here's a non-rotary question for the group. The DAR will be
>> coming out Monday morning to inspect my project. Hopefully
it
>> will qualify as an airplane once he's done. He mentioned to
me to
>> be sure to have my airframe logbook so that he can make his
>> required log entry. (Here's the problem.) I
don't have a logbook
>> yet. But according to an A&P on the Lancair list, the
logbook can
>> be done in 3-ring binder format, or even on computer. I
would
>> like to make one up in the 3-ring binder format, but don't have
>> any idea of what's required. Anyone on the list been
through thi s
>> and have a page format they are willing to share? Mark S.
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