X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from m12.lax.untd.com ([64.136.30.75] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.10) with SMTP id 2178221 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 00:53:16 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.136.30.75; envelope-from=alwick@juno.com Received: from m12.lax.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m12.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABDKVK8ZARWCNFS for (sender ); Sat, 14 Jul 2007 21:51:35 -0700 (PDT) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: L941HVjjYzDhN3itp//mkMgyGSV3mpNqpucahOp6gxL2DS87UOgoQQ== Received: (from alwick@juno.com) by m12.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id MSNSHDKV; Sat, 14 Jul 2007 21:50:54 PDT To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 21:50:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] FW: Oil cooler air flow Message-ID: <20070714.215034.3152.18.alwick@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.49 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 6,8-10,12,14-17,19-83,85,87-88 From: al p wick X-ContentStamp: 33:16:3917396759 X-MAIL-INFO:3205052951a0600180c0e929e5e9d91d9d64fde98414d0345184fd64842d8419e4b1cd7d0555296529415110d935741001a075 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|m12.lax.untd.com|alwick@juno.com Really impressed with your scientific approach Al. I can't remember what type of plane you have, but for the Cozy, my cooling was dominated by dead air near rear of plane. That boundary layer gets thick back there. So I duct taped two pieces of aluminum angle to the air brake and Bam! All cooling issues disappeared. I do like Ed's suggestions. Sorry not much help, but couldn't let it go without saying how impressed I was with your method. Must have been tough to start cutting on your duct. You know, I also liked Ernests blower and yarn approach. I wonder if that would help? -al wick Cozy IV powered by Turbo Subaru 3.0R with variable valve lift and cam timing. Artificial intelligence in cockpit, N9032U 240+ hours from Portland, Oregon Glass panel design, Subaru install, Prop construct, Risk assessment info: http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/alwick/index.html On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:02:32 -0800 "Al Gietzen" writes: > OK, all you aerodynamicists; here’s the scoop – what I did and what > I > measured; > (Pressures measured in inches of water.) > 1 – sealed the strake/wing crack in front of exit fairing - - No > effect > 2 – Installed Gurney flap at back edge of exit fairing (see photo 1) > – Very > little effect. > 3 – Set up manometer to get some pressures. (photo 2) > 4 – Dynamic pressure in front of scoop, ½” from surface (photo 3) -- > 9.5” at > 160 mph. Nothing wrong with that. Free stream away from surface > would be a > bit over 12”. > 5 – Static pressure ½” from face of core – 3 Ό” (end of tube was > pointing > slightly away from direction of flow at about 60 degrees to the > flow; flow > velocity is pretty low) > 6 – Static pressure just behind the core --- 0” > 7 – Static pressure at behind exit fairing, Ύ” from surface (photo > 4) – Ύ” > 8 - Installed VGs about 2 1/2 ft in front he exit fairing - No > noticeable > effect. > > So .. . plenty of dynamic pressure in front of scoop and only 3 Ό” > pressure > in front of the cooler core. This would suggest that the scoop/duct > isn’t > working. > > Photo 5 is a reasonably accurate x-section of the scoop and duct. > Shaping > was limited because duct entrance is right behind the spar, and by > the > limited thickness of the wing root. I'm just guessing that the > somewhat > abrupt curvature of the upper wall at the entrance is causing flow > separation, turbulence; and whatever. > > You'll also note in photo 4 that I had cut the center section of the > exit > fairing to allow exit further forward - that didn't help. I also > did soap > drops on the surface which way air was going both in front of; on > top of; > and behind the fairing. In all places the flow was relatively > straight > back. I'm also guessing that there isn't much chance of developing > a > greater negative pressure at the exit; but, hey, whatever works > > All I need to know is a simple fix:-) > > Al > > > > -al wick Cozy IV powered by Turbo Subaru 3.0R with variable valve lift and cam timing. Artificial intelligence in cockpit, N9032U 240+ hours from Portland, Oregon Glass panel design, Subaru install, Prop construct, Risk assessment info: http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/alwick/index.html