X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.162.235] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.10) with ESMTP id 2138041 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:18:43 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.233.162.235; envelope-from=rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s1so1003202nze for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2007 18:18:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=qo7qgYn1M8M1ITyUbZLvWeyaK4i2ETPsKxYiDXAFa3gArkGhIS1dRtKBPy9+60nvLbuoZWSVInPu9HOd0MA8D/qTIzbmBceXosycA5NtkId5zqcu5Y2Oti2e20ixw0Mim5pC71IGKw6fseMwOTzCpZoVSobGKPUkIGabGI/7iTU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=k10+do0bLg/ycpp1kBC81jg6xHUaobVbvFQtpDf3cpf9UG84+PKymrZ4L6zpnC0Diy8HVQQ3OPB177Bz4+aAW81UU4qRZhGKcQsj59N8/za0xILVlSr4q5f5AxUg5wXwGC6JNeGaz8k2/hbtCKUsi88O3JEZiuxHRftNG61hwmk= Received: by 10.142.102.5 with SMTP id z5mr148164wfb.1182734285980; Sun, 24 Jun 2007 18:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.115.16 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Jun 2007 18:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1b4b137c0706241818h23b41c47w59f36df8d0ff231c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:18:05 -0400 From: "Tracy Crook" Sender: rwstracy@gmail.com To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Method of Killing the engine [FlyRotary] ECU/EM upgraded...a couple of questions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_123270_9734905.1182734285959" References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: d7fd535db4138f77 ------=_Part_123270_9734905.1182734285959 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Chris, My guess is that if you do have power, the EM2 either has the contrast control turned up too high or is mis-wired. First twist the contrast control to both ends of travel and watch the display. If still no joy, check wiring. You do have the contrast control installed, right? Only the LCD version uses this control and yours is an LCD. Normally the contrast control will be turned fully CCW unless the temperature is really hot or really cold. PS: Don't be bashful about using the mixture control on the EC2. Turning it is the fastest way to get an education on how the engine reacts to mixture changes. Every pilot NEEDS this education on an experimental engine. If it runs better after you turn the pumps off, it's telling you what you thought : (TOO RICH). Tracy > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Barber" < > CBarber@TexasAttorney.net> > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 9:48 AM > Subject: [FlyRotary] ECU/EM upgraded...a couple of questions > > >I got my ECU and EM back yesterday and installed the ECU. It was really > nice > > to have the upgrade that allows diagnostic modes. Hit the button and you > can > > really hear the injectors clicking as if you are at 3000 RPM's. Very > > reassuring > > > > The engine started after only a couple of minutes the first time and > then > > started easily after that. As a matter of fact, it is stopping the > engine > > that has been curious. I will turn the fuel pump off but the engine will > > continue to run for several minutes after the pumps are off (I can still > > kill the system by flicking the coils/injectors off but I believe this > can > > lead to flooding and is "bad form"). Actually, the engine really sound > nice > > just before it does stop due to fuel starvation....yeah, I think I am > > running really rich 'cause when I lean, it really smoothes out. > > > > I am having a another problem though which is really bugging me. I can't > > seem to get the EM (Engine Monitor) to come online. The screen remains > > blank. This is the same as was happening before I sent it and the ECU > back > > to Tracy for upgrade. Tracy ok'ed the units, but my screen is still > blank. > > It seems to not be getting any power. I have checked and rechecked the > > wires. I do NOT have all the sensors hooked up yet, but it is my > > understanding that all you should need is power and the data in/data out > and > > you should get some base readings. > > > > I was stupidly careful about having all power disconnected and made a > > cursory investigation as to the grounds before time ran out. Does the > unit > > have an "on" switch that I am missing, or does it come up when ships > power > > is applied? > > > > Please, what am I missing? I would really like to see what is actually > > happening in my engine. I would also feel ok to run it longer if the > reading > > seem "normal"....or at least workable. But, until I can get the monitor > up > > the engine tweaking is limited. > > > > I was only able to "play" with it a few minutes before I had to go home > and > > go to bed (4:30 am comes very early, and yes, I work weekends.....but I > am > > off tomorrow and Tuesday ), so I still need to investigate. > However, > > anything obvious that jumps out at y'all that could help is appreciated. > > > > Thanks again. > > > > All the best, > > > > Chris > > > > Christopher Barber > > Attorney and Counselor at Law > > 5110 Bissonnet, No 418 > > Bellaire, Texas 77401 > > > > Serving the Needs of Senior Texans > > > > 281-464-LAWS (5297) > > 281-754-4168 Fax > > www.TexasAttorney.net > > > > > > -- > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > ------=_Part_123270_9734905.1182734285959 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Chris,
My guess is that if you do have power, the EM2 either has the contrast control turned up too high or is mis-wired.   First twist the contrast control to both ends of travel and watch the display.  If still no joy, check wiring.  You do have the contrast control installed, right?   Only the LCD version uses this control and yours is an LCD.  Normally the contrast control will be turned fully CCW unless the temperature is really hot or really cold.
 
PS:  Don't be bashful about using the mixture control on the EC2.  Turning it is the fastest way to get an education on how the engine reacts to mixture changes.  Every pilot NEEDS this education on an experimental engine.  If it runs better after you turn the pumps off, it's telling you what you thought :  (TOO RICH).
 
Tracy

 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Barber" <CBarber@TexasAttorney.net >
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net >
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 9:48 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] ECU/EM upgraded...a couple of questions

>I got my ECU and EM back yesterday and installed the ECU. It was really nice
> to have the upgrade that allows diagnostic modes. Hit the button and you can
> really hear the injectors clicking as if you are at 3000 RPM's.  Very
> reassuring
>
> The engine started after only a couple of minutes the first time and then
> started easily after that. As a matter of fact, it is stopping the engine
> that has been curious. I will turn the fuel pump off but the engine will
> continue to run for several minutes after the pumps are off (I can still
> kill the system by flicking the coils/injectors off but I believe this can
> lead to flooding and is "bad form"). Actually, the engine really sound nice
> just before it does stop due to fuel starvation....yeah, I think I am
> running really rich 'cause when I lean, it really smoothes out.
>
> I am having a another problem though which is really bugging me. I can't
> seem to get the EM (Engine Monitor) to come online. The screen remains
> blank. This is the same as was happening before I sent it and the ECU back
> to Tracy for upgrade. Tracy ok'ed the units, but my screen is still blank.
> It seems to not be getting any power.  I have checked and rechecked the
> wires. I do NOT have all the sensors hooked up yet, but it is my
> understanding that all you should need is power and the data in/data out and
> you should get some base readings.
>
> I was stupidly careful about having all power disconnected and made a
> cursory investigation as to the grounds before time ran out.  Does the unit
> have an "on" switch that I am missing, or does it come up when ships power
> is applied?
>
> Please, what am I missing? I would really like to see what is actually
> happening in my engine. I would also feel ok to run it longer if the reading
> seem "normal"....or at least workable. But, until I can get the monitor up
> the engine tweaking is limited.
>
> I was only able to "play" with it a few minutes before I had to go home and
> go to bed (4:30 am comes very early, and yes, I work weekends.....but I am
> off tomorrow and Tuesday <yea>), so I still need to investigate. However,
> anything obvious that jumps out at y'all that could help is appreciated.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> All the best,
>
> Chris
>
> Christopher Barber
> Attorney and Counselor at Law
> 5110 Bissonnet, No 418
> Bellaire, Texas 77401
>
> Serving the Needs of Senior Texans
>
> 281-464-LAWS (5297)
> 281-754-4168 Fax
> www.TexasAttorney.net
>
>
> --
> Homepage:  http://www.flyrotary.com/
> Archive and UnSub:   http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html

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