X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.66] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.10) with ESMTP id 2134487 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:56:37 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.66; envelope-from=atlasyts@bellsouth.net Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([70.149.4.211]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20070622215601.EXCB1059.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:56:01 -0400 Received: from [70.149.4.211] by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20070622215601.FDHI29715.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[70.149.4.211]> for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:56:01 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <19E1D790-F8EA-4299-A189-AE65F5CE2B58@bellsouth.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bulent Aliev Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: New lurker on the list Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:56:01 -0400 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Shane, listen to Bill. I'm one of these guys.John Slade is another, but he bought a bigger turbo system and is flying without problems. I just removed the turbo and flew NA. Bulent "Buly" Aliev FXE Ft lauderdale, FL http://tinyurl.com/dcy36 On Jun 22, 2007, at 11:58 AM, wrjjrs@aol.com wrote: > Shane, Unless you plan to fly very conservatively, you will need to > replace the stock turbo. Or as a few people have done get the unit > modified to prevent overspeeding at high altitude. Several guys > flying with the stack turbo have even REMOVED the waste gate valve > entirely, (that's right just the holes), and they still have > overspeeding and breakage. Typically the turbine self destructs and > you lose boost but the plane is still flyable fortunately. Check > the archives for some of the mods done to the stock turbo for > aircraft longevity. > Bill Jepson > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Shane Daly > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Sent: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 8:25 am > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New lurker on the list > > > > Thanks Ed, > > > > I already have an old style 13B turboed engine that I am starting > with, so that decision has been made. I also have a local guy that > specializes in building rotary's for racing and he has done a > couple of aircraft engines in the past. He is Adam of RX-7 > Specialties. > > > > Thanks again, > > > > Shane Daly > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ed Anderson > > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 6:35 AM > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New lurker on the list > > > > > Welcome aboard, Shane > > > > A 13B turbo should make that Glasair really boogie. All questions > are welcomed, responses are varied but, we do have folks with > decades of rotary engine experience and real -world experience with > the use of it in racing and aircraft. Data, opinions, rationale, > facts, speculations, problems, challenges, wishes and hopes can all > be found here, you're responsible for sorting them in to > appropriate categories {:>). > > > > I would say the first decision you need to make about the engine is > whether to go with the newer Rensesis 13B or the older Rx-7 13B. > If you want turbo, the Renesis does not currently (but rumors > abound about a future Forced Induction Renesis) come configured for > one - although, it is certainly possible to roll your own turbo > version. Members of the list have found that for the most part the > stock automobile turbo which is designed for short power bursts > does not do well in aircraft application (although with very low > boost levels, some have had success). So a different turbo > package would likely be the smart thing in any case. Plenty of > older 13B's around but of course the parts availability down the > road will probably start to decrease. Both the older 13B and > Renesis appear to work equally well - with the Renesis giving a bit > more power. > > > > Just one of the many design decisions you will face. > > > > So, again welcome to the list. > > > > Best Regards > > > > Ed > > > > Ed Anderson > Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered > Matthews, NC > eanderson@carolina.rr.com > http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW > http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Shane Daly > > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:23 PM > > Subject: [FlyRotary] New lurker on the list > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I am new to the list just getting started on a 13B turbo conversion > I plan to put into a Glasair 1TD that I am also just starting to > build. I have built a few fast glass aircraft in the past, so I > have no issues with putting the Glasair together, but I am green > when it comes to building up a rotary. I hope you don't mind a few > newbie questions once in a while? I have gone through the archives > and there is a lot of great info there, so that is where I will > start. I look forward to getting to know both the engine and the > community as I progress. > > > > Shane Daly > Calgary, Canada > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.1/857 - Release Date: > 6/20/2007 2:18 PM > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's > free from AOL at AOL.com. > =0 > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/ > flyrotary/List.html