X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.207] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.10) with ESMTP id 2133906 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 11:59:53 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.144.207; envelope-from=WRJJRS@aol.com Received: from WRJJRS@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.2.) id q.c4d.17c5101c (48338) for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 11:58:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from FWM-M09 (fwm-m09.webmail.aol.com [64.12.168.73]) by ciaaol-d02.mail.aol.com (v117.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIAAOLD026-bcd2467bf1b62fb; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 11:58:46 -0400 References: To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: New lurker on the list Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 11:58:46 -0400 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: wrjjrs@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 27618 Received: from 65.161.241.3 by FWM-M09.sysops.aol.com (64.12.168.73) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 22 Jun 2007 11:58:46 -0400 Message-Id: <8C982FD599DE444-1020-4DD9@FWM-M09.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 64.12.168.73 X-Spam-Flag: NO Shane, Unless you plan to fly very conservatively, you will need to=20 replace the stock turbo. Or as a few people have done get the unit=20 modified to prevent overspeeding at high altitude. Several guys flying=20 with the stack turbo have even REMOVED the waste gate valve entirely,=20 (that's right just the holes), and they still have overspeeding and=20 breakage. Typically the turbine self destructs and you lose boost but=20 the plane is still flyable fortunately. Check the archives for some of=20 the mods done to the stock turbo for aircraft longevity. Bill Jepson -----Original Message----- From: Shane Daly To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 8:25 am Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New lurker on the list Thanks Ed, =A0 I already have an old style 13B turboed engine that I am starting with,=20 so that decision has been made. I also have a local=A0guy that=20 specializes in building=A0 rotary's for racing and he has done a couple=20 of aircraft engines in the past. He is Adam of RX-7 Specialties. =A0 Thanks again, =A0 Shane Daly ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Anderson To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 6:35 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New lurker on the list Welcome aboard, Shane =A0 A 13B turbo should make that Glasair really boogie.=A0 All questions are=20 welcomed, responses are varied but, we do have folks with decades of=20 rotary engine experience and real -world experience with the use of it=20 in racing and aircraft.=A0 Data, opinions, rationale, facts,=20 speculations, problems, challenges, wishes and hopes can all be found=20 here, you're responsible for sorting them in to appropriate categories=20 {:>). =A0 I would say the first decision you need to make about the engine is=20 whether to go with the newer Rensesis 13B or the older Rx-7 13B.=A0 If=20 you want turbo, the Renesis does not currently (but rumors abound about=20 a future Forced Induction Renesis) come configured for one - although,=20 it is certainly possible to roll your own turbo version.=A0 Members of=20 the list have found that for the most part the stock automobile turbo=20 which is=A0 designed for short power bursts does not do well in aircraft=20 application (although with very low boost levels, some have had=20 success). =A0 So a different turbo package would likely be the smart=20 thing in any case.=A0 Plenty of older 13B's around but of course the=20 parts availability down the road will probably start to decrease.=A0 Both=20 the older 13B and Renesis appear to work equally well -=A0with the=20 Renesis giving a bit more power. =A0 Just one of the many design decisions you will face. =A0 So, again welcome to the list. =A0 Best Regards =A0 Ed =A0 Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html =A0 =A0 ----- Original Message ----- From: Shane Daly To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:23 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] New lurker on the list Hi all, =A0 I am new to the list just getting started on a 13B turbo conversion I=20 plan to put into a Glasair 1TD that I am also just starting to build. I=20 have built a few fast glass aircraft in the past, so I have no issues=20 with putting the Glasair together, but I am green when it comes to=20 building up a rotary. I hope you don't mind a few newbie questions once=20 in a while? I have gone through the archives and there is a lot of=20 great info there, so that is where=A0I will start. I look forward to=20 getting to know both the engine and the community as I progress. =A0 Shane Daly Calgary, Canada No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.1/857 - Release Date:=20 6/20/2007 2:18 PM ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free=20 from AOL at AOL.com. =3D0