Return-Path: Received: from [65.33.167.37] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.1.5) with HTTP id 2630692 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 18:32:37 -0400 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: Water pumps Somebody STOP me! To: flyrotary X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.1.5 Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 18:32:37 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20031009151509.ONAU1644.fed1mtao04.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for Dale Rogers : Tracy Crook wrote: > I bring this up occasionally to either: > > A. Dispell a popular myth > > or > > B. Eliminate a big misunderstanding on my own part. > > I'll accept either outcome but so far no one has addressed the issue. > Based on everything I (think I ) know about pumps: > > Assumeing a constant pump speed, when the thermostat closes and head >pressure goes up, power required to drive the waterpump does NOT go up. It >actually goes DOWN. Reason: There is less mass being accelerated (energy) at >lower flow rates. In the extream example (zero flow) the same water in the >pump housing is being spun around at a constant velocity which requires no >energy. Of course there are losses in the pump so the energy consumed is not >zero. > > This argument applies ONLY to centrifugal pumps (of which automotive >waterpumps are an example) and not positive displacement types (like oil >pumps). > > OK, somebody shoot this argument down and educate me. I'll admit I don't have all the science involved fully integrated; but I would like to point out that a fluid coupling (e.g. auto trans.), which is a type of centrifugal pump, appears to display just the opposite behavior. regards, Dale