Return-Path: Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.117] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 2626497 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 19:53:54 -0400 Received: from unknown (161.birmingham-06-07rs.al.dial-access.att.net[12.86.90.161]) by mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with SMTP id <20031006235352113007mi5ue>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:53:52 +0000 Message-ID: <003001c38c64$e83aed20$a15a560c@unknown> From: "Michael D. Callahan" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Mill Drill and Lathe Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 18:52:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 "I consider any tool I buy at Harbor Freight to be incomplete. The first thing to do is take it apart and true up all the pieces and then put it back togther, using shim or new holes where necessary." Yup, I agree Ernest. I have heard some of the machine tool hobbyists refer to the import machine as "kits". You get it, take it apart, line it up, make new parts to replace some lousy stuff, put it all back together, and you end up with a pretty good machine. They wouldn't last a week in a production shop, but they are fine for home shop work. The Jet stuff seems a little above average, especially compared to the Harbor-Freight machines. The Grizzly folks make out like their machines are specially made JUST for them, although they might look EXACTLY like the other import machines... yeah right. I can tell from the pics that their 9x20 is made from EXACTLY the same drawings as my Jet. The Jets are, as Dale pointed out, made in Tiawan (at least they used tO be, don't know about now), but quality-wise, Chinese vs Tiawanese, this seems to make little difference. It's just nowhere near the quality of the US machines that are 50yrs old. Mike C.