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From: Steve Thomas <steve@stevet.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engines in aircraft other than kit built
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:38:53 -0800
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

You definitely need to contact Mistral Engines.  They are the closest =20=

to providing what you need.  And if you can install a non-=20
certificated engine, theirs is still the best way to go and they =20
would be happy to help you.  Contact Fran=E7ois Badoux at:

f.badoux@mistral-engines.com

Also see:

http://www.mistral-engines.com

I have one of their engines, but am not flying yet.  If you have any =20
further questions, I'll try to answer off-line


Best Regards,

Steve
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On Nov 21, 2006, at 11:34 PM, jready@efni.com wrote:

> I haven't gotten an answer yet from Transport Canada with regards =20
> to swapping a certified aviation engine for a rotary, but =20
> everything I can find in the Canadian Aviation Regulations (CARs) =20
> says the owner maintenance catagory pretty much gives you free =20
> reign to do as you please.
> Under the owner maintenance regulations, the aircraft is registered =20=

> under a "special certificate of airworthiness - owner =20
> maintenance".  This allows the owner to sign off on all self =20
> completed maintenance tasks.  Non certified parts can be used, as =20
> well as engines, as long as you can prove it meets the intent of =20
> the standards.  I don't think installing a rotary is that far =20
> outside the standard.
> Essentially an owner maintenance aircraft falls in the same =20
> catagory as a hombuilt kit - the pilot has the ultimate say of what =20=

> is airworthy, as defined in the standards, outlined in the CARs.
> Short story long, it's the owner, doing the maintenance, flying the =20=

> plane - kind of self policing the maintenance.
> Jason
> WRJJRS@aol.com writes:
>>  Jason,
>> Your idea certainly has merit, but your options are going to be =20
>> very  limited. If you don't buy a completed kit plane (a possible =20
>> good way to go) the  only real alternative is Mistral Engines. =20
>> They are working on a certified  version of the Rotary. Theirs is =20
>> a beautiful engine package that runs to normal  aircraft prices. =20
>> They have not certified an engine yet so you would have to wait  a =20=

>> while to get an aircraft with a STC'ed engine change. I don't know =20=

>> what the  legality of putting a non-certified engine in a =20
>> certified aircraft is in Canada  (good neighbor to the north). In =20
>> the US the FAA makes it a true pain in the  butt. FWIW
>> Bill Jepson Greetings all....  I've been an on and off lurker on =20
>> this list  for a couple of years now.  I really enjoy reading =20
>> about these  engines and the success many have had.  My original =20
>> intent was to go  the kit route and install a rotary engine for =20
>> all the obvious  reasons.  But after some deep soul searching, =20
>> I've discovered kit  building is not the best route for me.  I'm =20
>> not a builder.  I  don't have the time, the space or the desire to =20=

>> build, I just want to  fly.  I am willing to tinker a bit and the =20
>> rotary really intrigues  me.  Despite this discovery, the idea of =20
>> flying a certified aircraft  being pulled through the air by a =20
>> dinosaur engine doesn't appeal to me,  especially when there is a =20
>> better alternative in the rotary.  Is  there anyone on this list =20
>> who has or knows someone who has swapped out a  traditional air =20
>> cooled banger for a rotary?  Here in Canada we can  register =20
>> certain aircraft models as owner maintenance, which means a ton  =20
>> of savings on maintenance costs and repairs.  I'm currently =20
>> looking  to find a good 4 seat Cessna with a high time or time =20
>> ex'd engine that can  be swapped to a rotary.  I assume it would =20
>> be a fairly easy job to  mount and controls should also be pretty =20
>> straight forward.  It should  be a close swap $'s wise for a =20
>> complete rotary install if I can sell the  removal engine core.  =20
>> Am I way off the runway centreline here, or  does my idea have =20
>> merit?  Jason
>> Ontario Canada
>
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