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From: "John Downing" <downing.j@sbcglobal.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Newby 20B questions
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 21:22:42 -0500
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Bob;  I retired from a Public utility governed by the Public Service Comm.
Everything was cost plus 14%, so we never had time to do it right, but we
always had time and money to do it over.  JohnD
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob White" <rlwhite@comcast.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 9:04 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Newby 20B questions


> The place I used to work had two quality goals:
> 1.  Do it right the first time
> 2.  Continuous improvement
>
> If you do it right the first time, how can you improve it? Never did
> quite figure it out.
>
> Bob W.
>
> On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 15:11:50 -0500
> "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > Couldn't agree more, Bill.  I'd settle for doing it right the second
time {:>)
> >
> > Ed
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: wrjjrs@aol.com
> >   To: Rotary motors in aircraft
> >   Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 1:10 PM
> >   Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Newby 20B questions
> >
> >
> >   Ed,
> >   That is just the way it is in engineering. It is always easier to do
it better the second time! There was a sign on the wall of one of the places
I worked, I learned the meaning of later. "The trouble with doing everything
right the first time is that people don't understand how hard that actually
was!"
> >   Bill Jepson
> >
> >
> >   -----Original Message-----
> >   From: eanderson@carolina.rr.com
> >   To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net
> >   Sent: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 4:49 AM
> >   Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Newby 20B questions
> >
> >
> >   I agree with your weight assessment, Bill.  Pay attention to every
ounce as they quickly add up into pounds.  I figure I could remove approx
15-20 lbs of weight if I redid my FWF again from scratch based on lessons
learned. Its easier to keep the weight down than to remove it later {:>)
> >
> >   Ed
> >     ----- Original Message ----- 
> >     From: WRJJRS@aol.com
> >     To: Rotary motors in aircraft
> >     Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 12:15 AM
> >     Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Newby 20B questions
> >
> >
> >     In a message dated 11/15/2006 4:37:27 PM Pacific Standard Time,
bob@hassel-usa.com writes:
> >       How does the flying weight compare on the 20B with a lyco 360 for
example?
> >
> >       Thanks,
> >
> >       Bob
> >     Bob, Mistral is listing the weight of the 20B conversion at 395 with
radiators I believe. The 20B will produce IO 540 like HP though. The 13B
done well can make almost 200HP without even P-porting. Most 13B's so far
are about the same weight as a 360 with all the plumbing. Carefully setup
the 13B NA engine shoould be lighter than a O-360, you just need to do a
carefull engineering job.
> >     Bill Jepson
> >
>
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