Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #32973
From: Mark R Steitle <mark.steitle@austin.utexas.edu>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Auto Fuel - composite tanks
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:56:16 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

Al,

I sure hope this stuff works because this is what I used to seal the fuel tanks on my Lancair.  Jeffco 9700 is what Lancair specifies, and supplies in their kits.  I’ve had mogas in my right wing for about 8 months now with no sign of leakage.  It would be extremely difficult (if not impossible) to coat the fuel tank after the wings are closed. 

 

Mark S. 

 


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Steve Brooks
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:39 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Auto Fuel - composite tanks

 

Al,

When I built my cozy, the EZ-poxy was also recommended for the strakes.  Since I used MGS to build the entire plane, I really didn't want to use the EZ-poxy to build the strakes.  For one, it would have different curing tendencies, and secondly the specifications of the MGS indicated that strength wise it was a much better epoxy.

 

After some research, which also included using products already tested by others before me, I elected to coat my fuel tanks with a product made by Jeffco.  Specially, Jeffco SPF9700-FCR.  I built the strakes using MGS, and then coated the interior with the Jeffco epoxy.

 

 

I'm not sure how difficult it would be to coat the tanks with it now, but it is impervious to most fuels, and their various additives.  I've had fuel in my tanks for almost 3 years now.  Various different gas stations, and no problems at all with the tanks.

 

I don't know how hard it would be to coat your tanks now, but it most likely would solve your problem.  You just paint the stuff on after mixing it up.  It's pretty thick, and tends to stick pretty well to vertical surfaces.  As I recall, I gave mine 2 or 3 coatings.  I had zero leaks when I pressure tested the tanks.

 

Steve Brooks

Cozy MKIV N75CZ

Turbo Rotary

 

 

 

 

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[Steve Brooks] 

 
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Al Gietzen
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 1:15 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Auto Fuel - composite tanks

Not sure where to go with this because there are only a few here with epoxy fuel tanks, and on the Velocity list very few interested in the use of mogas.  I’m suspecting fuel compatibility isses.

 

I first put fuel in the tanks nearly 2 years ago and used Chevron regular. Everything was fine.  When I moved the plane to the airport 3 months ago (tanks empty) I filled with Exxon-Mobile.  Four troubling things have come up in the past few weeks.

 

  1. I have Vance Atkinson site gauge that has a white plastic back plate for easier reading of the fuel level. The small hole through the backing has been swelling shut so the sight gauge no longer works. I contacted Vance who said that there are hundreds of these gauges in EZs using mogas without problems, but he has had 3 incidents like mine in the last three months.
  2. A couple of weeks ago there was suddenly a pinhole leak in one of the gear well enclosures.  These enclosures are part of the fuel tank wall, and are parts that come with the Velocity kit.  These are also made and coated with EZ-poxy.
  3. Looking in through the filler cap I see reddish-purple splotches and streaks on those gear leg enclosures.  Poking and scratching with some safety wire on a stick does not indicate any softness of the surface.
  4. Yesterday, under the leading edges of one of the strakes, I noted an area with some slight surface irregularity.  Pushing on it suggests some sponginess.  This is ½” foam core material, and indicates the possibility of a pinhole leak in the inner skin, and fuel softening the PVC foam.  PVC foam is supposed to be unaffected by fuel.

 

My tanks (strakes) were made and coated with EZ-poxy back in 1998.  At the time I polled EZ flyers about there experience, and talked to reps of various epoxy manufacturers about auto fuel compatibility.  All the evidence said go with the EZ-poxy.

 

Any others with composite tanks having any trouble?  Anybody using Exxon-mobile fuel?  Know of any new additives that are an issue?

 

I’m thinking I should drain this fuel ASAP, but then what?  Other brand?  That expensive Avgas?  Regardless I may be faced with cutting open a strake at some point, but right now we are trying to get first flight done this coming weekend.

 

 

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