X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.67] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.2) with ESMTP id 1330395 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:32:31 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.67; envelope-from=atlasyts@bellsouth.net Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([65.10.49.231]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20060731173145.DRHK24571.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:31:45 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.34] (really [65.10.49.231]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20060731173144.XGIB22152.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.34]> for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:31:44 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <002AB0A4-BB04-4B7D-A958-15241DCED0A6@bellsouth.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Bulent Aliev Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Auto Fuel - composite tanks Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:32:06 -0400 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Al, I just finished repairing my fuel gauges. Same problem like =20 yours. I'm surprised Vance did not issue a notice to everyone =20 regarding this problem? Now the fuel tank leaks are very disturbing. Can't imagine cutting =20 the tanks open. Than what? I had auto fuel in my tanks for over a =20 year and have no indications of any leaks yet? they are made with =20 EZPoxy like yours. Bulent "Buly" Aliev FXE Ft lauderdale, FL http://tinyurl.com/s5xw8 On Jul 31, 2006, at 1:14 PM, Al Gietzen wrote: > Not sure where to go with this because there are only a few here =20 > with epoxy fuel tanks, and on the Velocity list very few interested =20= > in the use of mogas. I=92m suspecting fuel compatibility isses. > > > I first put fuel in the tanks nearly 2 years ago and used Chevron =20 > regular. Everything was fine. When I moved the plane to the =20 > airport 3 months ago (tanks empty) I filled with Exxon-Mobile. =20 > Four troubling things have come up in the past few weeks. > > > I have Vance Atkinson site gauge that has a white plastic back =20 > plate for easier reading of the fuel level. The small hole through =20 > the backing has been swelling shut so the sight gauge no longer =20 > works. I contacted Vance who said that there are hundreds of these =20 > gauges in EZs using mogas without problems, but he has had 3 =20 > incidents like mine in the last three months. > A couple of weeks ago there was suddenly a pinhole leak in one of =20 > the gear well enclosures. These enclosures are part of the fuel =20 > tank wall, and are parts that come with the Velocity kit. These =20 > are also made and coated with EZ-poxy. > Looking in through the filler cap I see reddish-purple splotches =20 > and streaks on those gear leg enclosures. Poking and scratching =20 > with some safety wire on a stick does not indicate any softness of =20 > the surface. > Yesterday, under the leading edges of one of the strakes, I noted =20 > an area with some slight surface irregularity. Pushing on it =20 > suggests some sponginess. This is =BD=94 foam core material, and =20 > indicates the possibility of a pinhole leak in the inner skin, and =20 > fuel softening the PVC foam. PVC foam is supposed to be unaffected =20= > by fuel. > > My tanks (strakes) were made and coated with EZ-poxy back in 1998. =20= > At the time I polled EZ flyers about there experience, and talked =20 > to reps of various epoxy manufacturers about auto fuel =20 > compatibility. All the evidence said go with the EZ-poxy. > > > Any others with composite tanks having any trouble? Anybody using =20 > Exxon-mobile fuel? Know of any new additives that are an issue? > > > I=92m thinking I should drain this fuel ASAP, but then what? Other =20= > brand? That expensive Avgas? Regardless I may be faced with =20 > cutting open a strake at some point, but right now we are trying to =20= > get first flight done this coming weekend. > > > >