X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [142.165.20.173] (HELO misav02.sasknet.sk.ca) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.9) with ESMTP id 1138114 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 15:43:17 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=142.165.20.173; envelope-from=hjjohnson@sasktel.net Received: from bgmpomr1.sasknet.sk.ca ([142.165.72.22]) by misav09 with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 13:42:27 -0600 Received: from sasktel.net ([192.168.234.97]) by bgmpomr1.sasknet.sk.ca (SaskTel eMessaging Service) with ESMTP id <0J0900ERE02R3QC0@bgmpomr1.sasknet.sk.ca> for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 13:42:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from [192.168.234.24] (Forwarded-For: [24.72.101.251]) by cgmail1.sasknet.sk.ca (mshttpd); Fri, 02 Jun 2006 13:42:27 -0600 Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 13:42:27 -0600 From: Heidi Johnson Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Prop design speed To: Rotary motors in aircraft Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sun Java(tm) System Messenger Express 6.1 HotFix 0.20 (built Feb 27 2006) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal > Bill Bradburry wrote: > > >Joe Hull says: > >Snip... > >"Thanx Ed. I have a 64"Dia. x 76" pitch prop. It's supposed to be > cruise>prop > >that is designed for 190HP and 220MPH. But you're right, it's > too early > >to > >be cutting on the prop." > > > >OK, here is where I demonstrate my ignorance... > >My rough calculations, with an estimated 20% slip, says this prop > with a > >76" pitch, is good for 121 MPH with a 2.85 drive and 160 MPH with > a 2.17 > >drive assuming a 6000 RPM cruise??? > >Where am I going wrong? > > > >Bill Bradburry > > > > > >-- > >Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ > > > > > > > For 2.85: > > 6000 RPM / 2.85 = 2105.263157894737 RPM (at the prop) > > 2105.263157894737 R/M * 76 I/R * .8 = 128000 inch per minute > > 128000 I/M / 12 I/FT / 5280 FT/Mile * 60 M/Hour = 121.21 MPH > > For 2.17 > 6000 RPM / 2.17 = 2764.976958525346 RPM (at the prop) > > 2764.976958525346 R/M * 76 I/R * .8 = 168110.599078341 inch per minute > > 168110.599078341 I/M / 12 I/FT / 5280 FT/Mile * 60 M/Hour = 159.2 MPH > > Looks like your numbers are on target, but isn't 20% slip rather > large? 20% [or rather 80% efficent] isn't really that huge, I think the norm for a run of the mill fixed prop is in the range of about 85%, Paul Lipps posted a note someplace just recently saying his props's are just over the 90% [ I think] so.. it's a decent [conservative] ball-park number anyway.. Jarrett Johnson