Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #32005
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Wiring Techniques was [FlyRotary] Re: Anothercase of heat-soaked coils?
Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 13:56:56 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Re: [FlyRotary] Wiring Techniques was [FlyRotary] Re: Another case of heat-soaked coils?
Not something that I have tried, Don.  Looks like it could be best of both worlds {:>).  That way you would not have to take the screw all the way out (and risk dropping it into one of those wormholes where you can never find it), but still would not let the terminal just drop out because the screw was not tight.
 
Ed
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Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 11:59 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Wiring Techniques was [FlyRotary] Re: Anothercase of heat-soaked coils?

Something I do is cut the eye terminal to look like a question mark [?]. That way it is more secure than just a “U” terminal.


Don Solomon
Cozy #1169
Durango, CO (DRO)
http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/triptrish/index.html




From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Reply-To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 11:42:08 -0400
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Wiring Techniques was [FlyRotary] Re: Another case of heat-soaked coils?

I use the same basic technique as outlined by Tracy.  I crimp, then solder, then place a shrink wrap around each terminal to wire connection area.  I then wrap the cable in some type of abrasion resistant cover (I like the split corrugated plastic tubes make for this) .   Then Adel clamps to relive stress of the entire cable package.

Also When terminals are called for I almost always use those terminals with the a "closed" loop for the screw.  In other words, I do not use terminals that are shaped like a "U".  The reason is that should the terminal screw be just a bit loose the connector could drop out.  With the close connector the screw has to back all the way out for the terminal drops away from the connection - just might give you time to notice a loose screw.  The only down side, is if you do need to disconnect it you have to take the screw all the way out which can be a pain if you have many to undo.

Thus far, I have not had a loose connection or other electrical problem of any type (due to wiring or connectors).  In fact, the only electrical problem I have had was when the bias resistor in the base of the leading coil burnt out early on in testing - replaced it with a 10 watt resistor and all has been well.

 
Ed

Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com

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From:  Tracy Crook <mailto:lors01@msn.com>  
 
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net>  
 
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 11:00 AM
 
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Another case of  heat-soaked coils?
 

 
 
First,  DON"T EVER attempt to stress relieve a wire junction  bundle with Silicone Rubber RTV!  It cures with acetic acid which  corrodes electrical connections!!!!

 
 
 
 
Stress relieving wires is potentially a long subject so I'll have to  reduce it to basic principle.   In most cases, the concentrated  stress with soldered connectors is a red herring argument (having no  basis).  Connectors generally have integral stress relief features  built into the backshell which prevent stress from vibration & cable  movement from reaching the point in the wire that has solder wicking into the  strands.  I usually go one step further and put a piece of heat shrink  sleeving over the wire bundle where it leaves the connector.    
 
 
 
There are innumerable other methods of stress relieving  wires.   Adel clamps, wire lacing cord, and tie wraps are the  most common.  Just keep vibration from causing wire to flop around -  That's the whole basis of stress relief in electrical work.
 

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From: Thomas y Reina Jakits <mailto:rijakits@cwpanama.net>  
 
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net>   
 
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:36  PM
 
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Another case  of heat-soaked coils?
 

 
Tracy,

 
 
would you be so kind and elaborate on your way  to do "stress relief" on solder/wire/cable joints?

 
 
Thanx TJ


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From:  Tracy  Crook <mailto:lors01@msn.com>  
 
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net>   
 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:41  PM
 
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Another case  of heat-soaked coils?
 

 
 
Thought the coils were a long shot.
 
 
 
I'm still not sure where the connection that failed was (connector  contact or the unknown connection at the end of the pigtail left by  cutting the connector off the Mazda harness) but I do like treating all  connector contacts with a corrosion inhibitor.  My favorite is  Corrosion X.   I like soldered connections for this reason  too.  I'll do my own stress relief to get it away from the potential  stiff connection at the solder joint.  To each his own though.
 
 
 
Tracy  (Granddaughter gone for the  summer,     Aahhhh.......... : )
 

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From: Thomas y Reina Jakits <mailto:rijakits@cwpanama.net>  
 
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net>   
 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 8:54  PM
 
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Another  case of heat-soaked coils?
 

Get some SP-400!

If you fancy it, mask the to be  treated area - then aply a thin coat (shake
the can really well and  repeat often...).
Get over any all connectors that are suspect to  moisture.
It will form a thin wax like coat. Re-apply at least one  more time after a
couple of hours or overnight.
Areas that are  really in the "wet" you should apply up to 5 coats.
It takes a while  to do a good job, but:
It is transparent - you alway see the  connection
The coat gets a little harder with time, but always stays  flexible

It made my day on a Bell-47 for 3 month on the  ocean!!

TJ

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From: "John  Slade" <sladerj@bellsouth.net>
To:  "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent:  Friday, May 26, 2006 11:31 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Another case  of heat-soaked coils?


> Well it wasn't the coils after  all.
> Florida humidity had gotten to one of my crank angle sensor  connectors.
> Problem solved.
> Coils returned.
> $206  back in my pocket.
> Life is good
> John
>
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