X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.66] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with ESMTP id 997506 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 22:28:14 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.66; envelope-from=atlasyts@bellsouth.net Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([65.9.74.56]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20060225032732.JUQE29896.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 22:27:32 -0500 Received: from [65.9.74.56] by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20060225032731.INOD1887.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[65.9.74.56]> for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 22:27:31 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <5BB4D2ED-5226-4941-BE5B-2B7790722688@bellsouth.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bulent Aliev Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Radio noise progress Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 22:27:58 -0500 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Thanks Bob. I'll try it. Buly On Feb 24, 2006, at 8:20 PM, Bob White wrote: > Hi Buly, > > You will get more effective filtering by putting a choke in series > with the lead to the offending unit. Put the capacitor on the end > away from the noise generator. I looked at RS and only found one > choke of 100uH, but it didn't give a current rating (p/n 273-102) > They also have a snap together toroid core that you could use to make > a choke. Wrap as much wire, of the appropriate gauge to carry the > current, as you can (p/n 273-104). They also had ferrite choke core > (p/n 273-105) that you can just clip around the wire. It will work > best if the noise is high frequency. You should be able to reduce the > size of the capacitor when used in conjunction with the choke. > > Bob W. > > > On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:40:00 -0500 > Bulent Aliev wrote: > >> This morning on the way to the hangar I bought some more ceramic disk >> capacitors 0.01mF as suggested. Tried them on the fan. No change. The >> fan is Spal brushles I think? It has separate return line to the >> engine case. >> While waiting for Jim to come with the oscilloscope, I connected >> (temporary) the large 20A Radio Shack noise filter to filter the >> incomming power to the avionics bus. BIG improvement! I would say 80% >> reduction in fan, fuel pumps etc. noise. >> Jim arrived with the o.scope and we connected it to the fan. Wow! You >> can see the noise. Started trying different disc capacitors I had and >> they did not make any difference. Jim asked me to buy few different >> ones at RShack and left to take care of business, but left me the >> o.scope. After trying few capacitors, 475mF did the trick. >> Now the high pressure FI pumps. They were making one hell of a noise >> filling the whole screen on the scope. >> The avionics filter was taking care of most of it, bit I can still >> hear them. Went twice more to RShack for bigger and bigger >> capacitors. Finally the 2000mF made difference on the screen, but not >> enough. On the way home I stopped again in RShack and got the biggest >> one they had 5000mF and hope in the morning to see a flat line on the >> screen :). >> Next is the alternator, but had no time to run the engine today. >> Thanks to everybody for your suggestions. >> >> QUESTION FOR TRACY: At all times with everything else turned off >> except master, I hear quiet noise in the headset that's like a clock >> ticking. If I disconnect the antenna from the radio it stops. I was >> wandering if there is something in the EC that maybe doing this? >> Buly >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ > > > -- > http://www.bob-white.com > N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 (first engine start 1/7/06) > Custom Cables for your rotary installation - > http://www.roblinphoto.com/shop/ > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/