Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #28426
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: "P" factor? Re: Static Engine RPM
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:23:52 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Bob, if there is any pull to the right then its more than offset by the yaw to the left caused by (take your pick) 1. Torque 2. "P" Factor 3. Air Swirl {:>).  It may be that the small difference in an already fairly light prop does not have a lot of impact.  On the other hand there may a Lot of gyroscopic precession when I rotate and that is what keeps me on the runway heading (more or less){:>)
 
Ed
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Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 11:42 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: "P" factor? Re: Static Engine RPM

Ed,
Not being the number crunching type, where does Gyroscopic Precession come in to play?  With the larger prop, do you notice any effect when the nose is rotated up?  The way I picture it, there should be some momentary pull to the right.

Bob Perkinson
Hendersonville, TN.
RV9 N658RP Reserved
If nothing changes
Nothing changes
 

 
No familiar with the SA-16, Bob, but are both props turning same direction or opposite - would make a significant difference in whether there is a swirl (my spell checker says OK {:>)) effect or not.  If in opposite directions then I would agree, if both props rotating in same direction then harder to say.
 
For a long time I thought that Torque was the major cause, however, I remain convinced (at this point) that the low rolling and large yaw force is primarily caused by swirl. Having encountered prop swirl on take off roll too close behind Finn's RV3 there is no question in my mind that prop swirl is a powerful force.   But, regardless whether torque or swirl (or combination), the 2.85 gear box and larger prop makes a considerable change. 
 
I don't recall whether Tracy adjusted his motor mount for his 2.85 and larger prop or not.
 
Ed A
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