Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #28416
From: Russell Duffy <13brv3@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: "P" factor? Re: Static Engine RPM
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:23:58 -0600
To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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I don't recall whether Tracy adjusted his motor mount for his 2.85 and larger prop or not. 
 
Tracy's RV-4 mount is straight, with no offset either direction.  When I first put the 2.85 drive on the RV-3, while it still had the opposite engine mount thrust angle, it was an evil uncontrollable beast.  
 
I made one (and only one) takeoff from the three point stance.  If the plane wasn't so overpowered, it would have been a ground loop for sure.  Despite full right rudder, the plane left the ground just as it departed the left side of the runway.  From that point on, I would ease into the power, until I could get the plane going fast enough to raise the tail, then I could roll on the rest of the throttle.  On one hand, this would seem to show that the primary problem was due to P factor, but on the other hand, the rudder is also far more effective once you reach tail flying speed, so maybe that's the simple reason it was more controllable.  
 
I was able to shim the mount back to zero offset, but that was as far as I could reasonably go.  Of course, when you shim the mount on an RV-3, you're also turning the main gear as well.  What I ended up with was the engine pointing forward, and the main gear pointing a couple degrees to the right.  Maybe that helped too.   The difference was simply amazing, and the plane is a pussy cat compared to having the wrong thrust.
 
Cheers,
Rusty (Kolb now has more wires than any 3 other Kolbs combined)  
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