Return-Path: Received: from ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com ([24.93.67.84] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.3) with ESMTP id 2567321 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 04 Sep 2003 09:12:00 -0400 Received: from o7y6b5 (clt78-020.carolina.rr.com [24.93.78.20]) by ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with SMTP id h84D9n4S011424 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2003 09:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <004b01c372e5$be00b320$1702a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Downsize inlet duct First Flight Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 09:09:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Point well taken, Bill. However, my cooling was more than adequate with the old larger ducts, so unless I can get some benefit (like lower drag), I don't see much point. On the other hand, if I added a turbo producing more waste heat then that would help there with the same size ducts. I'll continue to see what I can do with it. Ed Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Downsize inlet duct First Flight > Ed, you might get even better cooling, although no change in drag, by > keeping the opening large, but using the smoothing technique that you tried > on the smaller opening. > Bill Schertz > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ed Anderson" > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:18 PM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Downsize inlet duct First Flight > > > > The modification (reduction) of my radiator inlet duct area from a total > of > > 48 square inches to 33 square inches is dedicated to Rusty (for obivious > > reasons {:>)) Sorry, just couldn't help myself, Rusty, - the devil made > me > > do it. > > > > Ok folks, made the first flight today with my reduced/reshaped radiator > > > inlet for the left evaporator core. The right evaporator core was left > > > unmodified to provide a safety net sufficient to do the pattern and > land > > if > > > take off temps exceeded expectations. Fortunately, that was not > > necessary. > > > OAT on first take off was a humid 85 degrees. No temperature increased > > > noted during ground run up, so launched and made max rate of climb, not > > > seeing any abnormal temp increase I left the pattern and continue Max > rate > > > climb to 4500 MSL. Max temp of coolant during climb was 210F (normal > for > > > max rate climb at these OAT temps is 205F), Max oil temp was 200F > nominal > > > for max power climb. Max temps were reached about 2/3 of the way through > > the > > > climb. > > > > > > In level flight, my coolant temperatures normally run 5 degrees colder > > than > > > my oil temp. Today my coolant and oil temps were the same. So average > > > coolant temp was increased by 5 Degrees F. Total radiator inlet duct > area > > > was decreased from 48 square inches to 33 square inches. 24 Square > inches > > > for the right inlet duct and 9 square inch inlet for the modified right > > > duct (See attached photo for comparision). Probably some drag benefit, > but > > did not try to investigate that > > > aspect. > > > > > > I flew to an airfield 50 miles away to have my transponder recertified > and > > > when I launched out of it, the OAT (ground level) was 92F > > > > > > After level off I ran at different power settings to see the effect. > > > > > > 5800 rpm burning 11.9 GPH at 4500 MSL with OAT at 78F My oil and > > coolant > > > were both 190F. > > > > > > 5400 rpm burning 9.6 GPH at 4500 MSL with OAT 80F My Oil and coolant > were > > > both 185F > > > > > > 5200 (Around my normal cruise rpm) burning 7.25 GPH at 4500 MSL with > OAT > > 80F My > > > oil and coolant were both 180F > > > > > > In summary, the 33 % reduction in total radiator inlet area appeared to > > > have increased coolant temps by an average of 5 Deg above the normal > (the > > > old duct). It could be that both the remaining radiator and perhaps the > > oil > > > cooler are rejecting any additonal load with no problem. > > > > > > It appears that smoothing out the path for the air from inlet to > radiator > > > surface has benefited the cooling situation. It could be that > additional > > > heat may be rejected by the right (second in series) radiator as the > > coolant > > > it received from the left radiator was probably now a bit hotter. I also > > > observed that the plate of the PSRU covers an area 3 " in from top to > > bottom > > > of the rear of each radiator and the plate is only 2" from the rear of > the > > > fins at its closest, so that is obviously not helping flow, the Ross > Bell > > > housing did not, so a bell housing might improve flow conditions . > > > > > > I strongly suspect I would probably find that a similar reduction of > > the > > > right radiator inlet duct to 9 square inches would see my coolant (and > > > probably oil) temps increase considerable more than another 5 F. > > > > OAT at ground level was 94F when I landed, so not the hottest of days, > but > > not the > > > type I normally prefer to fly in. > > > > > > >From what I have seen so far, I think it worth pursuing a reduction > with > > the > > > right radiator duct. I will probably not reduce it as much for the > reason > > > mentioned above. With some other things to take care of, probably won't > > get > > > to it until later part of Sept at the earliest. But, I have no problem > > > flying with current asymmetrical ducts, so will leave it as is for the > > time > > > being and collect some more data. > > > > > > It it appears that some cooling benefit is derived from providing a > > smoother > > > transition from duct to radiator (even if far from a perfect > > implementation > > > of the K&M approach) than my old duct provided. The volume of the duct > > was reduced by at least 60%, so while hard to tell from photos the white > > "filler" material actually fills most of the duct. > > > > > > Oh, yes, as an aside, its been 25 hours since I replaced the spark plugs > > and > > > right on schedule - on the way back, I got the first SAG (Sparkplug > > > Attention Getter) indication. So it appears 25 hours on 100LL about > the > > > average time for replacing plugs in my case. I finally got a spark plug > > > cleaner, so need to clean a set (as the electrods do not appear worn) > and > > > see if getting the lead off the ceramic cone helps any. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > Ed Anderson > > > > Ed Anderson > > RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered > > Matthews, NC > > eanderson@carolina.rr.com > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---- > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >