Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #26623
From: <kenpowell@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Ignition Coil Connectors
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 01:58:19 +0000
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Hi Guys,
I was originally going to go with the truck coils but got a deal on the Vette coils and harness.  So, I have the wiring harness (actually, 1/2 a harness) which conists of 4 coil connectors attached to the wiring harness and the big connector for the entire harness.  This harness came off a '00 Silverado with the 5.3 V8 and should fit all coils off the 4.8, 5.3, and 6.0 V8's.  The connectors are grey with a light blue insulator bellows; the wires disappear into an orange piece on the back of the connector and the connecotor is 17.7MM across the plug where it plugs into the coil.  I beleive that this fits the D581 coils but can't be sure since I never actually bought the coils.  Asking $35.00 + shipping.  If it doesn't fit your coils I'll return your money.

Ken Powell
Bryant, Arkansas
501-847-4721
C150 / RV-4 under construction
 
-------------- Original message --------------

>
> I've been trying George, but so far I haven't gotten any information on
> what connector might fit. The D581 is smaller, from the photos it
> looks like it mounts to a flat surface, and it costs less. The only
> advantage I see to the D580 is I know what connector fits. :)
>
> I did find the following information from a Google search. On June 13,
> 2004, Mark told Ed A. that the connector he was using with his D581
> coils was GM p/n 12126487 or AC/Delco PT757, but it needed to be
> modified slightly to work. GM Parts Direct wants $21 for the
> connector. Unless we can figure out what connector that is, it makes
> the total cost for the D581 coil and connector about $46, and for the
> D580 $36. -- Thanks Mark
>
> Bob W.
>
> On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 10:52:22 +1000
> "George Lendich" wrote:
>
> > Thanks Bob, I needed that information.
> > I would prefer the coil D581 truck type, could you advise if you can source
> > the connectors please.
> > George
> >
> > > Hi George,
> > >
> > > The LS-1 coil has internal electronics so that it only needs a logic
> > > signal to trigger it. It's also called an igniter. All 4 leads are
> > > used.
> > >
> > > Signal GND (EC2)
> > > Engine GND
> > > 12 V
> > > Trigger
> > >
> > > Bob W.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 07:23:44 +1000
> > > "George Lendich" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Mark,
> > > > Good suggestions, never thought of that.
> > > > I went to a auto supply specialist the other day and he told me that the
> > wiring is only + ve and - ve ( two wires) and in fact some coils ( in
> > Australia) have non-plug type connections ( thread and lock nut).
> > > > Does Tracy use the LS 1 coils for any particular reason i.e.because
> > there much lighter or something like that. I'm led to believe they are very
> > reliable and they don't stock them because there is little to no demand for
> > non-genuine replacement - so that's good info. They are found in the GM V8
> > here in Australia but the cost is about $150 from GMH ( your GMC)
> > > >
> > > > Also can someone explain the wiring of the injectors, I didn't ask about
> > that.
> > > > George ( down under)
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Mark R Steitle
> > > > To: Rotary motors in aircraft
> > > > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 10:30 PM
> > > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ignition Coil Connectors
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Joe & Dale,
> > > >
> > > > Just a bit of caution here. I'm using the D581 (Chevy pickkup
> > version) coils. I ordered what looked to be the correct connectors, only to
> > find out that they had an indexing lug that prevented them from mating with
> > the coils. I trimmed the indexing lug off and used them anyway as there is
> > a lock that prevents them from being inserted 180* out. Just be sure you
> > check it very carefully. Connectors cost as much as the coils. Go figure!
> > You can always do what Tracy did and solder wires to the pins on the coils,
> > then pot the plug hole. Then use one large connector on the whole bundle.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mark S.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----
> > > >
> > > > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
> > On Behalf Of Kelly Troyer
> > > > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 12:40 AM
> > > > To: Rotary motors in aircraft
> > > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ignition Coil Connectors
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Joe and Dale,
> > > >
> > > > Correct numbers are D580 and D581........Electrically the
> > same.......D581 is slightly
> > > >
> > > > smaller and has plug and elect. connector opposite ends.......D580 has
> > both plug and
> > > >
> > > > elect. connector on same end.........Bob White is trying to source
> > connectors for the
> > > >
> > > > D581.......He has connectors for D580 now........
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Kelly Troyer
> > > > Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -------------- Original message from Dale Rogers
> > : --------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Joe,
> > > > >
> > > > > Why did you choose the D851? I thought that the "standard"
> > > > > was the D580 (AKA: GM # 12558948).
> > > > >
> > > > > Dale R.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > From: Joe Ewen
> > > > > > Date: 2005/09/11 Sun PM 10:43:17 EDT
> > > > > > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft"
> > > > > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Ignition Coil Connectors
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone know a source and or part number on connectors that
> > will fit the
> > > > > Delco D851 coils. I tried the Waytek parts called out on the Wiki,
> > but they do
> > > > > not fit the D851.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Joe
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > >
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> > > Prewired EC2 Cables - http://www.roblinphoto.com/shop/
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